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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:50 am
by robinz
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:50 am
by EdLee
robinz,
Kirby may be thinking about this:
$$B
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 7:08 am
by Kirby
$$Wcm11
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So, again, I want to move away from this area and play this:
$$Wcm11
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm11But this area seems kind of double-sente for black and white. It might be a little bit "aji keshi" for me to play this, but I really want to play it so that white doesn't atari me. In other words, I don't want white to do this:
$$Wcm11
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm11This move prevents that, I think in sente, and then I can move on to the next area of the board that I want to play in.
Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:15 am
by Magicwand
I use android so can not draw. Someone draw for me.
Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:20 am
by Kirby
$$Wcm11
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:56 am
by SoDesuNe
For observers:
Kirby wrote:
But this area seems kind of double-sente for black and white. It might be a little bit "aji keshi" for me to play this, but I really want to play it so that white doesn't atari me. In other words, I don't want white to do this:
$$Wcm11
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:26 pm
by EdLee
SoDesuNe,
SoDesuNe wrote: With Black playing
now,
is almost dead
How is
almost dead?
$$B
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 6:09 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm11
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Re:
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 11:13 pm
by SoDesuNe
EdLee wrote: SoDesuNe,
SoDesuNe wrote: With Black playing :b1: now, :bc: is almost dead
How is :bc: almost dead?
$$B
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Well, almost dead doesn't mean, it has no Aji at all. But compared to the diagram below it has significant less Aji, respectively when it starts to run, the corner has significant less Aji, too.
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcI assume, Magicwand's last move already aims at the Aji in the corner.
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:04 am
by EdLee
SoDesuNe,
SoDesuNe wrote: Well, almost dead doesn't mean, it has no Aji at all.
You seem to be using "almost dead" to mean something completely different.
$$ B is almost dead
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Re:
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:18 am
by SoDesuNe
EdLee wrote: SoDesuNe,
SoDesuNe wrote: Well, almost dead doesn't mean, it has no Aji at all.
You seem to be using "almost dead" to mean something completely different. :)
$$ B is almost dead
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 9:44 am
by Magicwand
for obs only:
below is the reason why i didnt answer his move.
what black played is bad because i can tenuki and grab the flow.
it would have been better for black to play
without playing
$$Wcm11
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm11i can not capture one stone without aji so i tenukied.
but my move is actually related to left side.
conclusion: black's move
is very very very crucial mistake.
although it looks like a correct play locally, this is a losing move in actuality.
edit:
Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:09 pm
by Kirby
$$Wcm11
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I thought about this position for awhile - white's last move is one that I don't really know how to answer, usually. I feel like something similar has been played against me before... And I didn't know what to do about it then, either.
But I think that the key thing is to split white here, because I want to keep the potential to make these stones weak (in the future):
$$Wcm11
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm11If I play this, I am just making his lone stone stronger:
$$Wcm11
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm11Playing here puts very little pressure on white:
$$Wcm11
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm11That's why I chose the move that I did. He might try to take corner points now by exploiting the aji I have there. But I think I'll be OK.
Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:18 pm
by Kirby
When I look at the board, I feel that my bottom left stones are kind of awkward - maybe overconcentrated, even.
I kind of regret playing D6. But I'm not exactly sure how to argue with my rationale from before that I didn't want white to atari C5...
I'm not really sure what would have been best...
But let's play a good game from here on out - I can only control my moves to come - not the ones I've already played.
Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:36 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm11
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now, 
is almost dead
without playing 
