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Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:25 am
by xed_over
LokBuddha wrote:I watched the Andy Liu Vs. Choi Cheolhan match live yesterday.
is this the game?
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http://weiqi.sports.tom.com/qipu/201108 ... czhlzy.sgf
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Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:34 am
by Adrian Ghioc
xed_over wrote:LokBuddha wrote:I watched the Andy Liu Vs. Choi Cheolhan match live yesterday.
is this the game?
yes
Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:53 am
by mw42
I watched BBW's game, and I didn't like his chances after move 5 (edit: move 8, I forgot to count the lower left exchange).
Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:59 pm
by yoyoma
Too bad the Western players couldn't manage a win. Looking forward maybe there will be some sort of stream of the finals? The official website has a link to ustream in the same row as the date/time for the finals.
http://jad.fujitsu.com/event/igo/http://www.ustream.tv/channel/igo-fujitsu-cupFinals will be
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=su ... 11am+japan
Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:58 pm
by trout
2nd round results:
Lee Sedol defeated Fujii Shuya by resign.
Xie He defeated Kong Jie by resign.
Park Junghwan defeated Chen Shiyuan.
Jiang Weijie defeated Kim Jiseok.
Piao Wenyao defeated Hane Naoki.
Qiu Jun defeated Cho Chikun.
Sakai Hideyuki defeated Tuo Jiaxi.
Iyama Yuuta defeated Choi Chulhan.
3rd round will be held tomorrow.
Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:51 am
by emeraldemon
I've been replaying over the Gu Li v Iyama Yuta game, it's very exciting and complicated, ending in a massive ko:
http://weiqi.sports.tom.com/qipu/201108/24fst-32-gljsyt.sgf
(Sorry about the encoding, Iyama Yuta is white) I can't quite see why Gu Li resigned, it looks like a two-step ko to me, but I'm sure he read ahead and saw that he couldn't win it.
It seems that now a Japanese player will definitely be in the top 4. Just for fun, here are my predictions for the final rounds:
Quarterfinals:
Piao Wenyao > Park Junghwan
Iyama Yuta > Sakai Hideyuki
Lee Sedol > Qiu Jun
Xie He > Jiang Weijie
Semifinals:
Iyama Yuta > Piao Wenyao
Lee Sedol > Xie He
Finals:
Lee Sedol > Iyama Yuta
Iyama Meijin is awesome, but I still think Lee Sedol is the best in the world. Either way I would be very excited to see a Lee/Iyama final!
Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:08 am
by mw42
There is also the Q16 ko which is initiated once white descends to T14. Black cannot win both.
Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:23 am
by Tryss
emeraldemon wrote:(Sorry about the encoding, Iyama Yuta is white) I can't quite see why Gu Li resigned, it looks like a two-step ko to me, but I'm sure he read ahead and saw that he couldn't win it.
What I have read :
If black save the L8 group, W descent at T14, then it's a ko for the Q12 group
But the H14 group is also a ko, it mean that black will lose either Q12 or H14 group
If black doesn't save the L8 group and save the Q12 group, white win the A6 ko too
Whatever black does, the big white dragon is alive
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong in my analysis
Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:37 am
by emeraldemon
Ok, so when white plays the descent as a ko threat at 222, why doesn't black just connect at T14? (maybe we should move to another thread?)
Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:20 am
by mw42
Well, the heart of the matter is number of ko threats. White has a bunch involving black's center group. If he connects at T14, that gives white two more ko threats (I think) starting with R17.
Someone stronger would need to give you a tally, but I played the game out a couple times and keep getting Gu Li lacking if he plays T14. A strong player like him would be able to read it out, I need to play it out.
Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:46 am
by lovely
Sakai Hideyuki's run so far is impressive, beating Lee Younggu and Tuo Jiaxi who have had good years in their respective countries. I wonder how he will fair against Iyama? I'm really pulling for him (Iyama) to win the whole thing.
Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:38 am
by LokBuddha
i think this is the age of Park Junghwan. He will win the whole thing. I am disappointed in Choi
Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:36 pm
by trout
Jiang Weijie defeated Xie He.
Park Junghwan defeated Piao Wenyao.
Iyama Yuuta defeated Sakai Hideyuki.
Qiu Jun defeated Lee Sedol.
Next round will be played tomorrow.
Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:02 am
by LokBuddha
Yes, Go Park Junghwan. I thought his game was interesting. Park got 4 corners and just have to live inside white moyo. Recently I notice Park Junghwan style. He likes corner, taking territory, and fight in the center. That's his strength I think.
Re: Fujitsu Cup
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:05 am
by gogameguru
Here's Jing's article about the
24th Fujitsu Cup so far. There are some photos and game records attached.
Difficult to pick a side in the finals (if that's your thing). I want each of the final four to win for different reasons. It will be fun to see what happens.