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136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

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Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:12 am
by Magicwand
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below is my expectation of near future.
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edit:
i wonder how he will answer if i play as below???
if he try to capture my stone he will have to kill corner..
and my captured stone has some aji leftover.
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Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:28 pm
by Kirby
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Just gotta keep the balance. I am not that great at global reading, I think. I can read out a local situation if I have to, but there are so many possibilities on a large scale, that it's hard to tell what will happen.

I wanted to play this:
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But it doesn't seem balanced:
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Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:07 pm
by Magicwand
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kirby played what i expected but i dont think it was optimal move by black.

Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:32 pm
by Kirby
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Shape move. I think this is a good place for both black and white to play. Hence, I will play it.

Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:56 pm
by Magicwand
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below was my original plan...but i changed my mind
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Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:42 am
by Kirby
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Let's see what happens here.

Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:00 am
by Magicwand
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Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:48 am
by daal
@Magicwand:

Does O5 bother you? It seems like it is not doing any work. Does it play any role in your plans?

Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:43 am
by Magicwand
daal wrote:@Magicwand:

Does O5 bother you? It seems like it is not doing any work. Does it play any role in your plans?

My O5 in not the best move i played..but i like it. i wouldnt have played it if it was an even game.
it is protecting the cut and expanding my influence on the bottom.

IMO, Kirby should not move the corner yet. because he move the corner too soon it made my O5 very effective move.

my future prediction is that i separate the right side and the bottom so he has to make small life on lower right corner in gote.
Then i attack side group to gain more influence and sente.
then i will attack top right group.

after everything done he will lose very comfortably.

Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:51 am
by jts
My O5 in not the best move i played..but i like it. i wouldnt have played it if it was an even game.


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"I also like to live dangerously..."

Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:36 am
by Kirby
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I think I've made a mistake somewhere. I don't know where. I guess I need to do damage control... Hopefully I can.

Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:41 am
by Magicwand
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i think this will be very short game...
i dont think black can play that cut..

Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:49 am
by Magicwand
simple reading will tell you that it is not a ladder and black can not cover both weakness a and b same time.
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he may try ko...but it looks too ugly for black.
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i dont see any good move for black..

Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:02 pm
by Magicwand
not for kirby until the end:
there is no way i can kill that one stone in the corner without aji.
therefore it is not wise to move the stone.

it would be better for him to strengthen his middle group as below than what he played.
after his group in the middle become strong his corner life will worth something.
but now his side group is too weak to play such move.

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for example: if i play at :w1: and black plays :b2:
black corner is almost solid but my corner is not.
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conclusion: if your opponent is not willing to play there...why should you play???

Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:04 pm
by Kirby
Just as an FYI, unless otherwise noted, my hidden comments are for observers only, until the end of the game.
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