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Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:01 am
by brodie
As a linguist(tics major), this is the type of question i could spend way too much time thinking about. It occurs to me that what sets go apart from other games is there a bit of gentlemanliness about it (sorry to be male-centric) in that a refined player is not aiming for total domination, merely one more point than the other. Therefore I would lean towards names with that general idea, such as
half plus one
simple majority
one more
Of course,those all sound terribly boring, because in English, given the language's history, we have a passion for loan word appropriation to the extent that English words as names often sound mundane, so you would have to translate that into, say, swahili, where you come up with the following:
moja
wengi
In any event, anything would've been better than "go," which not only sounds pedestrian, but, as anyone looking through the android market place can attest, causes needless confusion.
In all serious tho, I think I like stone field or hegemon.
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:15 am
by tj86430
daal wrote:Live and let die.
Or, in my case, die and let live.
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:53 pm
by scsfello
I would favor "go, the game of stone swords", shortening over time to "stone swords", and then "stones".
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:32 am
by entropi
entropy
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:33 am
by Bonobo
Since somebody wrote something involving strategy and tactics …
- Stractics
- Tactegy
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:46 am
by Mivo
Mike Novack wrote:Why would you think the situation would be different than for chess? We call the game "chess" and not "kings" (and here we are still within the same language family).
It's only "chess" in English. In many European languages, the name is much closer to the original. In German, for example, it is called "Schach", which is almost identical with the Persian name ("schah", king), and somewhat similar to the Arab version ("schatrandsch").
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:47 am
by kex
The original poster asked about western names, but so far the answers have been about European languages, such as English, German, Dutch. None of the western languages have really been considered.
So what would it be in Navajo, Penutian or Nahuatl?
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:17 pm
by aokun
kex wrote:The original poster asked about western names, but so far the answers have been about European languages, such as English, German, Dutch. None of the western languages have really been considered.
So what would it be in Navajo, Penutian or Nahuatl?
Well, in Navajo, it'd be called "checkerboard," the white player would called "Bia" and komi would be the white player's "Dawes allotment." More seriously, the concept of hozro or hozho, not sure the spelling, would cover the balance aspects of the game very nicely, just not the part where one player wins by crunching the other.
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:22 pm
by jts
brodie wrote:It occurs to me that what sets go apart from other games is there a bit of gentlemanliness about it (sorry to be male-centric) in that a refined player is not aiming for total domination, merely one more point than the other.
The word you're looking for is "gentility".
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:26 pm
by jts
aokun wrote:kex wrote:The original poster asked about western names, but so far the answers have been about European languages, such as English, German, Dutch. None of the western languages have really been considered.
So what would it be in Navajo, Penutian or Nahuatl?
Well, in Navajo, it'd be called "checkerboard," the white player would called "Bia" and komi would be the white player's "Dawes allotment." More seriously, the concept of hozro or hozho, not sure the spelling, would cover the balance aspects of the game very nicely, just not the part where one player wins by crunching the other.
Intriguingly, some ludologists believe that the people who crossed the Bering Straits brought proto-parcheesi with them. If they had brought 弈 with them as well, it would probably have a derivative name.
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:04 pm
by cyclops
kex wrote:The original poster asked about western names, but so far the answers have been about European languages, such as English, German, Dutch. None of the western languages have really been considered.
So what would it be in Navajo, Penutian or Nahuatl?
I never understood. Is America to the west of Eurasia or to the east?
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:41 pm
by hailthorn011
cyclops wrote:kex wrote:The original poster asked about western names, but so far the answers have been about European languages, such as English, German, Dutch. None of the western languages have really been considered.
So what would it be in Navajo, Penutian or Nahuatl?
I never understood. Is America to the west of Eurasia or to the east?
Typically when you have a map on paper, the Americas are placed to the west of Eurasia. However, on a globe, and in reality, it's sort of both.
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:54 pm
by Akura
hailthorn011 wrote:cyclops wrote:kex wrote:The original poster asked about western names, but so far the answers have been about European languages, such as English, German, Dutch. None of the western languages have really been considered.
So what would it be in Navajo, Penutian or Nahuatl?
I never understood. Is America to the west of Eurasia or to the east?
Typically when you have a map on paper, the Americas are placed to the west of Eurasia. However, on a globe, and in reality, it's sort of both.
I'm not sure, but haven't most American maps America/the Pacific in the center?
How about naming it "WeTo - Weird Topology" or "CRC - Calculate, Read and Count"?
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:55 pm
by tezza
Because of its simplicity to learn, profoundness in playing:
"Child's Chess"
Re: The game of Go - how Westerners would name it
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:03 pm
by aokun
cyclops wrote:kex wrote:The original poster asked about western names, but so far the answers have been about European languages, such as English, German, Dutch. None of the western languages have really been considered.
So what would it be in Navajo, Penutian or Nahuatl?
I never understood. Is America to the west of Eurasia or to the east?
Yes.