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Re: Joseki Dictionary
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:07 pm
by tchan001
Richard Bozulich wrote:Regarding tchan001's desire to have the Nihon Ki-in's new updated two volume joseki dictionary by Takao Shinji (published in January 2010) translated into English, I am pleased to inform him and other members of this site that Kiseido is hard at work translating this work. We expect the first volume to be published in the fall of 2010 and the second volume in early 2011.
Copies of the Ishida dictionary are still available at Kiseido's office in the USA.
Thanks for the great news. Will look forward to buying it when it is ready for purchase.
Re: Joseki Dictionary
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 1:06 am
by kirkmc
Richard Bozulich wrote:Regarding tchan001's desire to have the Nihon Ki-in's new updated two volume joseki dictionary by Takao Shinji (published in January 2010) translated into English, I am pleased to inform him and other members of this site that Kiseido is hard at work translating this work. We expect the first volume to be published in the fall of 2010 and the second volume in early 2011.
Excellent news! Thanks for sharing.
Are there only two volumes? How big, compared to the Ishida?
Re: Joseki Dictionary
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 1:39 am
by tchan001
Just wondering if we can also expect upcoming translations of the updated fuseki dictionary edited by Yoda Norimoto from 2008. The Rin Kaiho edition is also quite old.
Re: Joseki Dictionary
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 9:03 am
by oren
kirkmc wrote:Are there only two volumes? How big, compared to the Ishida?
The Ishida dictionary was also two volumes in the original format.
Re: Joseki Dictionary
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:06 pm
by Dante31
The newest Joseki dictionary in Japan was published in 2010 in 2 volumes:
Volume 1Volume 2Worth getting for those looking to have the more modern joseki.
Re: Joseki Dictionary
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:56 am
by Nagilum
Does already anybody know the japanese edtion of the joseki dictionary by Takao Shinji?
Is this dictionary a full replacement for the Ishida dictionary or only a supplement containing modern josekis?
I am looking for a nice reference, but i don't care so much about the "out of date"-issue. But when i spend my money, it would nice to have, of course.
Re: Joseki Dictionary
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:14 am
by averell
Nagilum wrote:Does already anybody know the japanese edtion of the joseki dictionary by Takao Shinji?
Is this dictionary a full replacement for the Ishida dictionary or only a supplement containing modern josekis?
I am looking for a nice reference, but i don't care so much about the "out of date"-issue. But when i spend my money, it would nice to have, of course.
I have it, and it is not a supplement, but a full dictionary. There are no more example games though, but that's what databases are for, and also fuseki dictionaries. I don't understand any japanese, so i can't tell if the text is useful, but variations that are common are marked especially.
Re: Joseki Dictionary
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:04 pm
by Oroth
Richard Bozulich wrote:Regarding tchan001's desire to have the Nihon Ki-in's new updated two volume joseki dictionary by Takao Shinji (published in January 2010) translated into English, I am pleased to inform him and other members of this site that Kiseido is hard at work translating this work. We expect the first volume to be published in the fall of 2010 and the second volume in early 2011.
Amazing! I'm super excited for this. I've always considered buying the Ishida dictionary, but been hesitant because of the age.
Re: Joseki Dictionary
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:59 pm
by usagi
Ellisdee wrote:I'm looking for a basic english Joseki dictionary. I've been using Kogo's, but I've heard some pretty bad things about how well maintained it is and/or it's accuracy. I see that Kiseido has the Dictionary of Basic Joseki in 3 parts by Ishida Yoshio.
I didn't know if there were any other books. I'm not looking for a problem book or anything, just something as a reference, to look up things when reviewing games.
I've heard Kogo's has many "mistakes" - I even found one of them. A long time ago I saw it listed a joseki that Go Seigen said was good, as being bad. My suggestion for improvement was not taken well, I might add.
Nowadays when I want joseki info, I use kombilo and select only one corner. I have over 150,000 games in my kombilo. For me, if a pro didn't recommend the move or play it, I'm not interested
Re: Joseki Dictionary
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:49 am
by rottenhat
Richard Bozulich wrote:Regarding tchan001's desire to have the Nihon Ki-in's new updated two volume joseki dictionary by Takao Shinji (published in January 2010) translated into English, I am pleased to inform him and other members of this site that Kiseido is hard at work translating this work. We expect the first volume to be published in the fall of 2010 and the second volume in early 2011.
Copies of the Ishida dictionary are still available at Kiseido's office in the USA.
John Power was visiting the Dublin club this week and mentioned in passing that translation work was taking longer than they had expected, and that the first volume is now scheduled for spring 2011. He also said that the new dictionary is the same length as the old one, and consequently for every new variation or diagram there is an older one that is being excluded. His opinion was that it won't render Ishida's dictionary redundant.
Re: Joseki Dictionary
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:46 am
by wossname
The original set of 3 volumes has been tremendously valuable for my study of go, and I'm looking forward to acquiring the revised edition!