#194 Skydyr versus DeFlow

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I've thought about whether it is better to make a tiger's mouth facing the bottom, or a tiger's mouth facing the right. Finally I chose the one facing the bottom. I am very interested in the observer's opinions about this. (Of course I'll read if after the game.)
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I want to solidify this side a bit before I come back to the left and take my territory.
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I'm happy he did not play this move. At this moment it is sente against my corner and it makes life for Skydyr's bottom group. This is the perfect timing. If he does not capture, he will have to extend down the bottom, but his last move will be gote. So he will probably capture. And if he does, I will happily connect on the right side. It's like the proverb, http://senseis.xmp.net/?PlayKikashiBeforeLiving
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One more kikashi, costing me a liberty but poking out his eye.


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This climbs higher, and sets up a play to break black's connection. I will want to extend to approach the top right corner soon. There is a potential ko in the corner, starting with the r1 hane, but it's heavy for white also unless the bottom group is alive without the ponnuki, so I will save it for later.
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I think that was a mistake on black's part. This move captures either 35 or the 4 stone string.
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Misread. :(

I'd like to keep this 4 stones alive, because letting them die gives him so much thickness. If I keep them alive, I have some nice forcing moves against his bottom group.
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I think I am decently ahead at this point. Black has a weakish group and an insecure corner, while white has nice influence and strong groups on two sides.
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Re: #194 Skydyr versus DeFlow

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Are we playing so perfectly that no one has anything to say about our game? Or is it just that boring? :scratch:
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Re: #194 Skydyr versus DeFlow

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I'm watching, but I have nothing constructive to add at the moment, except I see some shape study that I haven't done in a while that I should look up again.
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