Life In 19x19

xDragon wrote:a dislike button would be useful. for me at least. a forum i went to a couple years ago had one, but removed it for some silly reason.

Was it, perchance, overuse by a minority of people?

xDragon wrote:
araban is an exception because he actualkly contributes a lot, but im sure even then he has more than he should have. i took the liberty of searching other users who have a lot of likes.

HKA - 51 likes and i only see maybe 1 post that deserves likes, out of 13 posts that have likes.

wms - ok there are obvious reasons he gets a lot of likes but still no real contributions to the forum from the posts that have likes

topazg does better but still some posts that arent contributing anything, same with joaz

that was just some quick skimming cause i got bored.

Oooh, please do me, please do me!

I am the subject of the thread, after all

xDragon wrote:http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=655

like that. the topic serves no purpose but to pass around likes (which is already a bad idea but i wont get into that) and to inflate post count. though was off-topic posts already turned off? yes theres a similar topic but it hasnt reached that low of a level yet. it still serves little purpose.

what needs to be done is that a spam forum should be added, where people who are into not contributing anything at all can have their little fun (and post count would not increase of course) while off topic should contain posts with actual use and discussion.

alternatively, set some regulation on the forum.

Wow, someone needs something constructive to do...

xDragon, I agree with you. Spam has become a serious problem for the usability and clarity of this forum. You can find a good solution for this problem at http://tinyurl.com/yeto93c

Since the current usage of the like feature isn't to reward contribution, but just to show your support for some post in that thread, I don't think the like counter is useful. Perhaps move it to a less visible place (profile instead of on each post).

now I finaly know what the "foes" list is for.

any posts by xDragon wrote:This post was made by xDragon who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.

*edit.

I guess I'll remove him from the list again, because it's basically this, and only this, whole threat that is so annoying.

I was looking for an "ignore" button, but obviously the "foes" option does the job as well..

freegame wrote:now I finaly know what the "foes" list is for.

any posts by xDragon wrote:This post was made by xDragon who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.

*edit.

I guess I'll remove him from the list again, because it's basically this, and only this, whole threat that is so annoying.

karaklis wrote:I was looking for an "ignore" button, but obviously the "foes" option does the job as well..

there are plenty of people who fear change and anyone who supports it. its ok, i understand.

Both sides of this debate sadden me.

xDragon has a valid opinion, though very poorly delivered. I suspect he's regarding this forum and community as if it were a type of newsgroup, though it is far more dynamic (and complicated) than that. That somewhat skewed perspective makes for a frustrating time using this forum, I agree.

While I agree that dealing with an abrasive and disruptive opinion is difficult, it doesn't really help with a page of comments and jabs, a number of which are made by members who don't seem to have anything to say over and above the same repeated thoughts. It somewhat feels like mob rule in this thread, I'm sorry to say.

Don't get me wrong, most people have been generally polite, and are only trying to correct xDragon's misconception of the functionality of various portions of the forum. It just felt like 10 vs 1 or something. I think that posting over and over again how xDragon is wrong is pointless.

For the record, I disagree with xDragon on both the use of the Off Topic forum and the Like functionality. I doubt that will sway him, though.

Marcus wrote:Both sides of this debate sadden me.

xDragon has a valid opinion, though very poorly delivered. I suspect he's regarding this forum and community as if it were a type of newsgroup, though it is far more dynamic (and complicated) than that. That somewhat skewed perspective makes for a frustrating time using this forum, I agree.

While I agree that dealing with an abrasive and disruptive opinion is difficult, it doesn't really help with a page of comments and jabs, a number of which are made by members who don't seem to have anything to say over and above the same repeated thoughts. It somewhat feels like mob rule in this thread, I'm sorry to say.

Don't get me wrong, most people have been generally polite, and are only trying to correct xDragon's misconception of the functionality of various portions of the forum. It just felt like 10 vs 1 or something. I think that posting over and over again how xDragon is wrong is pointless.

For the record, I disagree with xDragon on both the use of the Off Topic forum and the Like functionality. I doubt that will sway him, though.

its just human nature. people are always hunting for reasons to look like theyre better than others, so they will join in unnecessarily on something like this so they can look like theyre cool and fit in. i have zero respect for people like that.

Count me in with the people who like like, and who like spamming.

I see forums in general as primarily a social thing. People come here to chat with fellow go players about whatever they want. Whether it's serious go discussion or "Hey look at my 100th post!", so what? There's room on the forum for both. And if I like to see people cheer for themselves in their 100th post, so I click the "like" button for that, then how is that doing anybody harm?

Let's just have everybody enjoy the forum in whatever way they choose and not worry about "oh, so-and-so's post count is high just because of his daily posts about his lunch" or whatever.

wms wrote:Count me in with the people who like like, and who like spamming.

I see forums in general as primarily a social thing. People come here to chat with fellow go players about whatever they want. Whether it's serious go discussion or "Hey look at my 100th post!", so what? There's room on the forum for both. And if I like to see people cheer for themselves in their 100th post, so I click the "like" button for that, then how is that doing anybody harm?

Let's just have everybody enjoy the forum in whatever way they choose and not worry about "oh, so-and-so's post count is high just because of his daily posts about his lunch" or whatever.

I was originally of a mindset very similar to xDragon. I even posted as such when the original discussions came up about the "purpose" of the like button. I'm still a little wishy-washy on that, but I have to admit I love using it for all kinds of posts. It really came down to the discussion and finding out the majority liked like in a different way I did. At that point, no reason to pout and get all mad about it. Now I accept it and enjoy.

Same with the off-topic forum and posts. Like I mentioned before, I came from a much more strict forum experience where things were enforced (and people would get banned). I would have liked to see that, but that was because it was what I was used to and really nothing more. Now I enjoy this forum for what it is. Like wms said, it's a social thing. I don't really know you guys all that well, but even the little time I've been participating here I've gotten to know people. Maybe even made some friends (if I may be so bold).

Also, xDragon, all the mentions of trolling really refer more to you calling out people specifically (at least that's the way I look at it). People can get really worked up about that. There was some pretty intense words on both sides of this and you got a lot of harsh words directed your direction. I think it got a little harsh there, especially when it was stacking all up. I really hope that you stick around and stay a part of this community. We have a great group of people here and it would be great to get to know you better. Maybe even improve our Go.

wms, brilliance. That's all I can say. --> viewtopic.php?f=8&t=795

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