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Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:47 am
by hyperpape
So, do the comments in this thread indicate that the format is proprietary and/or that the authors do not have rights to the books in SG format? I had the opposite impression, but I'm not sure if it was well founded.
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:53 am
by amnal
hyperpape wrote:So, do the comments in this thread indicate that the format is proprietary and/or that the authors do not have rights to the books in SG format? I had the opposite impression, but I'm not sure if it was well founded.
The only information I've seen was
http://lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic. ... =20#p59279 , which looking at it is a couple of years old now...I'd be very interested in any updates, at the very least it would be good to have at least a vague standard that other parties can follow rather than reinventing all the wheels.
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:58 am
by smartgo
amnal wrote:The only information I've seen was
http://lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic. ... =20#p59279 , which looking at it is a couple of years old now...I'd be very interested in any updates, at the very least it would be good to have at least a vague standard that other parties can follow rather than reinventing all the wheels.
That information is out of date. After creating twenty Go books using extensions of SGF, it became apparent that there was a mismatch between the tree structure of SGF and the more linear structure of a book. I'm now using a completely different format geared towards Go books. I plan to release a draft spec for that once I get the next version of SmartGo Kifu out the door.
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:04 am
by amnal
That will be really awesome, thank you very much

Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:43 am
by Bill Spight
smartgo wrote:After creating twenty Go books using extensions of SGF, it became apparent that there was a mismatch between the tree structure of SGF and the more linear structure of a book. I'm now using a completely different format geared towards Go books.
I think that hypertext (not a tree, but a DAG) can be a very good format for some books, some instructional go books in particular. (Some paper books have used it; Tutor Texts, IIRC.

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Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:13 am
by quantumf
imabuddha wrote:quantumf wrote:Furthermore, he has said that he won't consider this port until there is a successful Android tablet. I wonder what he would consider successful. The Nexus 7 has done very well, from what I can tell, although Google are cagey on sales figures. The Amazon Android devices have also done pretty well.
Another point of reference, Nexus tablet sales:
http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2013 ... s-not-many
Of course other Android tablet manufacturers probably sell more units, but the tablet market is currently dominated by iOS devices.
For the record I own a Nexus 7, and consider it a pretty good device. After the first month of ownership it has mainly been sitting on my desk "dreaming".

Market domination not so obvious anymore, apparently:
http://bgr.com/2013/04/24/tablet-market ... 13-462444/
tl;dr Apple tablets still selling well, but market share down to 48%, Android tablets up to 43%
Edit: assuming the figures are accurate, and they are not mixing apples and oranges. Did MS really sell 3.0 million surface devices in Q1?
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:38 pm
by Boidhre
quantumf wrote:Market domination not so obvious anymore, apparently:
http://bgr.com/2013/04/24/tablet-market ... 13-462444/
tl;dr Apple tablets still selling well, but market share down to 48%, Android tablets up to 43%
Edit: assuming the figures are accurate, and they are not mixing apples and oranges. Did MS really sell 3.0 million surface devices in Q1?
Those are shipment numbers not sales numbers.
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:16 pm
by LokBuddha
I would like to see Go world issues on smartgo book! I own the dvd but hardly touch them. I rather read books on smartgo. Maybe this could continue the life and accessibility of Go world magazine: no more printing and shipping.
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:56 pm
by smartgo
LokBuddha wrote:I would like to see Go world issues on smartgo book! I own the dvd but hardly touch them. I rather read books on smartgo. Maybe this could continue the life and accessibility of Go world magazine: no more printing and shipping.
Sorry, can't give you all of Go World, that would be up to Kiseido. However, one interesting slice of Go World is available in SmartGo Books: the Go World commentaries from the 40 title games that Fujisawa Shuko played in the Kisei title matches are collected in “The Games of Fujisawa Shuko”.
Re: The Commentaries of Honinbo Shuei
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:09 pm
by smartgo
smartgo wrote:That information is out of date. After creating twenty Go books using extensions of SGF, it became apparent that there was a mismatch between the tree structure of SGF and the more linear structure of a book. I'm now using a completely different format geared towards Go books. I plan to release a draft spec for that once I get the next version of SmartGo Kifu out the door.
The description of the new format is now available, started a separate topic about that. More at:
http://www.smartgo.com/blog/20130710.htm