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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:25 pm
by EdLee
$$Wm14
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:29 pm
by EdLee
Phoenix,
Phoenix wrote: I don't get EdLee's "messy variations" and "despite the ladder" comments.
It's because I was completely confused about the ladder.
I thought the ladder was good for B. I would've played Takao's variation, extend to
directly,
without the (a) atari first:
$$W
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Re: #217 EdLee vs. Amelia
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:32 pm
by Amelia
$$Bm15
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:41 pm
by EdLee
$$Wm16
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Re: #217 EdLee vs. Amelia
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:47 pm
by Amelia
$$Bm17
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:59 pm
by EdLee
$$Wm18
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:00 pm
by EdLee
Was expecting some kind of double approach:
$$B
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Re: #217 EdLee vs. Amelia
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:16 pm
by Amelia
$$Bm19
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:23 pm
by EdLee
$$Wm20
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Re: #217 EdLee vs. Amelia
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:38 am
by Amelia
$$Bm21
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Sorry for the delay.
Re: #217 EdLee vs. Amelia
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:51 am
by drmwc
Black has played well so far. However, it seems to me that the last move is a slight mistake and should have been:
$$Bm21
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Black is low on the lower side, so heading toward the sentre is more important here.
Re: #217 EdLee vs. Amelia
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:53 am
by skydyr
drmwc wrote:
Black has played well so far. However, it seems to me that the last move is a slight mistake and should have been:
$$Bm21
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Black is low on the lower side, so heading toward the sentre is more important here.
Re: #217 EdLee vs. Amelia
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:13 am
by drmwc
skydyr wrote: drmwc wrote:
Black has played well so far. However, it seems to me that the last move is a slight mistake and should have been:
$$Bm21
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Black is low on the lower side, so heading toward the centre is more important here.
It's unclear to me how W can do that easily. For example:
$$Bm21
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The exachnage of 23 for 24 is usually crude. However, here it looks good since W becomes overconcentrated. Normally, the shape made by stones 22 and 24 is very strong. However, here W's group is too close for it be effective.
Then 25 grabs a nice point in the centre, and it should help to alleviate the impact of W's thickness.
Alternatively, W could try this:
$$Bm21
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This could well be an overplay. I don't see how W can connect or cut after B 23 here. Even if W can achieve life, it is unlikely to be a good result. B will become thick, and already has a lot of territory.
As played, B will be very low on the lower side. For example:
$$Bm21
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The forcing moves at 24 and 26 are helpful in developing a scary central moyo.
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:02 pm
by EdLee
Amelia, no problem. I'm super slow.
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:26 pm
by EdLee
$$Wm22
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directly,