Re: The only reason Chess is cool.
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:37 pm
Gresil wrote:Suji wrote:Another advantage of chess, is that professional games are easier to find. As an example, http://www.chessgames.com has over 554,000 chess games and nearly all of the most recent games. Older games are as complete as they can be. Sure some older games are missing, but that's just the nature of the beast. I've often wondered if a site like Chessgames.com could easily be transferred to Go. Meaning, could one build a site just like it for Go instead of Chess.
From the point of view of one hobbyist studying a board game, pray tell, what is the difference between 554,000 games (Chessgames) and 60,350 games (GoGoD)? How many hundred games do you study in a week?
Gresil, that's a difference of 493,650 games.
In all seriousness, for me, there is probably no difference in reference to the size of the two databases. You could get by with either.
I don't really study games. I may run through 5 or 6 go games really quickly. I don't do this regularly, though. With chess it can be up to 30+ games when I want to. I don't really study them, I just go through them in about 5 minutes.
tchan001 wrote:Suji wrote:Another advantage of chess, is that professional games are easier to find. As an example, http://www.chessgames.com has over 554,000 chess games and nearly all of the most recent games. Older games are as complete as they can be. Sure some older games are missing, but that's just the nature of the beast. I've often wondered if a site like Chessgames.com could easily be transferred to Go. Meaning, could one build a site just like it for Go instead of Chess.
I don't know if all 554,000 chess games at the website are "professional games". According to the FAQ of chessgames.com, one of the sources of the games is the British Chess Game Archive. And this archive specifically says that it "is a national archive of British chess tournament games". I doubt all the participants of British chess tournament games are professionals.
If therefore it is mainly a database of strong chess players, then it would make sense to compare it with the BiGo Assistant Full Edition Databases (http://bigo.baduk.org/assistant_databases.html#Full) which advertises "Go game records database includes about 1 995 000 Go games records of strong (5 dan), very strong (6-7 dan) amateurs and professionals (about 62 000 games with at least one pro player). There are very few games of weak players."
Not the cheapest go database in the world but if quantity is what someone like dfan is looking for with a larger dataset of games when studying openings, then this might be just the database to buy.
No, not all are professional games. Are there any good Go databases that are free?
) but if you are looking for a database of games, please buy a copy of