My (1d) first even game against a 3d

Shaddy · Post by **Shaddy** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:41 am

Maaaybe o3 or n3, but looking back at the top left, probably not. I think white's enclosures are too good.

edit. Oh, Cassandra makes a good point. That's the "real" justification for my opinion, I guess, and what I've given is just what I'd do.

SoDesuNe · Post by **SoDesuNe** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:46 am

Pippen wrote:
SoDesuNe wrote:
Go Seigen also says, the open corner is always bigger (or something along these lines) ; )

Is there a link for that?

Hm, I can't give one. John Fairbairn's Final Summit remarks on this, when I remember correctly, and it also is said the New In Go series (#12) - sadly gogod.co.uk is still offline.

Pippen · Post by **Pippen** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:23 pm

Here's a game I just won against a 2d while playing horribly. That's what I mean. You win games you would not in more "structured & clear" games, because opponents have the disadvantage of surprise and tend to lose their poise. I commented two mistakes, do not try to comment beyond move 50 since this game is a gunslinger. Just enjoy a shoot-out^^.

Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:38 pm

Pippen wrote:
SoDesuNe wrote:
Go Seigen also says, the open corner is always bigger (or something along these lines) ; )

Is there a link for that?

That is not Go Seigen, that is common wisdom, for several centuries.

However, there have been players -- Kitani comes to mind --, who have sometimes played a wedge instead of an approach to the 3-4 stone in such positions. And, if the opponent's play is my play, and if the Chinese Fuseki is good, why not?

As for Go Seigen, in his "21st Century Go" writings he has not liked wedges in general.

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In this opening Go Seigen definitely prefers :b5:

, because White does not have a strong pincer. Even with the 7.5 komi, he likes an easy opening for Black.

As for a wedge, instead, it gives Pippen an easy game for him.

Even if it is, say, one point worse than an approach in an objective sense, he seems to be finding that it works for him, given his current opponents.

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Edit: Pippen, as for your game against hira123, looking at the position after :w12:

, it looks like he simply transposed to an opening he is familiar with.

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