New Super Meijin tournament
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Re: New Super Meijin tournament
I have transcribed the kifu image into an SGF file. It was not entirely trivial, because moves that later were captured are not shown in the kifu, but I am fairly confident that I got everything right.
[sgf-full]http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=262[/sgf-full]
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Re: New Super Meijin tournament
Gu Li appears to be in trouble in the middle game... If he can survive with his weak group it will be close.
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Re: New Super Meijin tournament
Peter Hansmeier wrote:Gu Li appears to be in trouble in the middle game... If he can survive with his weak group it will be close.
Thank you, Peter Hansmeier, that sounds promising (for a Iyama Yuta-fan
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Re: New Super Meijin tournament
Wow, Iyama Yuta really threw down the gauntlet... Gu Li seemed to escape (Liu Xing declared him alive back at move 120), but Iyama kept the pressure on, threatening two groups with a running group. It seems dangerous for him as well; either way I do not think there will be an endgame.
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Re: New Super Meijin tournament
Sounds thrilling.. I'd love to see the game. Wish you a good time watching it! 
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Re: New Super Meijin tournament
222 moves in... I was wrong, it is now down to endgame. Gu Li easily handled both sides, and after a couple exchanges, a big ko erupted. Gu Li ended the ko. 226, another ko started. So much fighting! The Chinese kibitzers on WBaduk do not yet agree on who will win.
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Re: New Super Meijin tournament
Thanks, Peter!
My boyfriend came online only a bit after your post and kindly watched the game on WBaduk for me. He told me a bit of what happened till the end (just ended a few minutes ago and send me the kifu right away).. It must have been great, although Gu Li (unfortunately) won. Didn't have the time to look at the game yet, thought you all might enjoy it, too. So here it is.
[sgf-full](;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[7.00]
PW[GuL]PB[IyamaY]WR[9d]BR[9d]PC[CyberOro - http://www.orozone.com]RE[W+4.00]
;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[di]CR[di]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
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;W[dg]CR[dg]
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;W[co]CR[co]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[hn]CR[hn]
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;W[qo]CR[qo]
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;W[qm]CR[qm]
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;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[sp]CR[sp]
;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[rk]CR[rk]
;W[ro]CR[ro]
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;W[sl]CR[sl]
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;W[fq]CR[fq]
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;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[ap]CR[ap]
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;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[rr]CR[rr]
;W[om]CR[om]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
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;W[kr]CR[kr]
;B[lp]CR[lp]
;W[jr]CR[jr]
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;W[ls]CR[ls]
;B[il]CR[il]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[kd]CR[kd]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[dh]CR[dh]
;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[ri]CR[ri]
;B[rj]CR[rj]
;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[li]CR[li]
;B[mk]CR[mk]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
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;W[nj]CR[nj]
;B[nk]CR[nk]
;W[mj]CR[mj]
;B[kj]CR[kj]
;W[kf]CR[kf]
;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[if]CR[if]
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;W[md]CR[md]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[jc]CR[jc]
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;B[os]CR[os]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
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;W[fo]CR[fo]
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;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
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;B[je]CR[je]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
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;W[he]CR[he]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
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;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[jf]CR[jf]
;B[lf]CR[lf]
;W[ie]CR[ie]
;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[fi]CR[fi]
;B[fj]CR[fj]
;W[nn]CR[nn])[/sgf-full]
My boyfriend came online only a bit after your post and kindly watched the game on WBaduk for me. He told me a bit of what happened till the end (just ended a few minutes ago and send me the kifu right away).. It must have been great, although Gu Li (unfortunately) won. Didn't have the time to look at the game yet, thought you all might enjoy it, too. So here it is.
[sgf-full](;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[7.00]
PW[GuL]PB[IyamaY]WR[9d]BR[9d]PC[CyberOro - http://www.orozone.com]RE[W+4.00]
;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[di]CR[di]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[be]CR[be]
;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[me]CR[me]
;W[kc]CR[kc]
;B[pi]CR[pi]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[hn]CR[hn]
;B[jn]CR[jn]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[oo]CR[oo]
;W[on]CR[on]
;B[no]CR[no]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[sp]CR[sp]
;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[rk]CR[rk]
;W[ro]CR[ro]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[sk]CR[sk]
;B[sj]CR[sj]
;W[sl]CR[sl]
;B[dq]CR[dq]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[er]CR[er]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[ap]CR[ap]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[rr]CR[rr]
;W[om]CR[om]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[kq]CR[kq]
;W[kr]CR[kr]
;B[lp]CR[lp]
;W[jr]CR[jr]
;B[lr]CR[lr]
;W[ls]CR[ls]
;B[il]CR[il]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[kd]CR[kd]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[dh]CR[dh]
;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[ri]CR[ri]
;B[rj]CR[rj]
;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[li]CR[li]
;B[mk]CR[mk]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[kh]CR[kh]
;W[nj]CR[nj]
;B[nk]CR[nk]
;W[mj]CR[mj]
;B[kj]CR[kj]
;W[kf]CR[kf]
;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[if]CR[if]
;B[mf]CR[mf]
;W[mg]CR[mg]
;B[of]CR[of]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[jc]CR[jc]
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;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[id]CR[id]
;W[kg]CR[kg]
;B[hg]CR[hg]
;W[ig]CR[ig]
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;W[ge]CR[ge]
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;W[sm]CR[sm]
;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[ng]CR[ng]
;W[gg]CR[gg]
;B[hh]CR[hh]
;W[hf]CR[hf]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[fg]CR[fg]
;W[gh]CR[gh]
;B[ei]CR[ei]
;W[gf]CR[gf]
;B[ej]CR[ej]
;W[gj]CR[gj]
;B[fk]CR[fk]
;W[gk]CR[gk]
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;W[dj]CR[dj]
;B[dk]CR[dk]
;W[ck]CR[ck]
;B[cl]CR[cl]
;W[bk]CR[bk]
;B[gl]CR[gl]
;W[hl]CR[hl]
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;W[bl]CR[bl]
;B[hm]CR[hm]
;W[hk]CR[hk]
;B[gm]CR[gm]
;W[fh]CR[fh]
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;W[jj]CR[jj]
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;W[im]CR[im]
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;W[kk]CR[kk]
;B[lk]CR[lk]
;W[lj]CR[lj]
;B[ik]CR[ik]
;W[ij]CR[ij]
;B[jm]CR[jm]
;W[jk]CR[jk]
;B[hi]CR[hi]
;W[gi]CR[gi]
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;W[ll]CR[ll]
;B[ml]CR[ml]
;W[lm]CR[lm]
;B[mm]CR[mm]
;W[ln]CR[ln]
;B[kl]CR[kl]
;W[jl]CR[jl]
;B[im]CR[im]
;W[km]CR[km]
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;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[es]CR[es]
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;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[ek]CR[ek]
;W[ar]CR[ar]
;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[ir]CR[ir]
;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[jq]CR[jq]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[mn]CR[mn]
;W[lh]CR[lh]
;B[lr]CR[lr]
;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[lo]CR[lo]
;W[jg]CR[jg]
;B[lr]CR[lr]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[an]CR[an]
;W[am]CR[am]
;B[lr]CR[lr]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
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;W[lq]CR[lq]
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;W[ji]CR[ji]
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;B[de]CR[de]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[br]CR[br]
;W[lr]CR[lr]
;B[cs]CR[cs]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[gb]CR[gb]
;W[ga]CR[ga]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[rf]CR[rf]
;B[se]CR[se]
;W[as]CR[as]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[ao]CR[ao]
;B[kl]CR[kl]
;W[ii]CR[ii]
;B[an]CR[an]
;W[aj]CR[aj]
;B[ci]CR[ci]
;W[ao]CR[ao]
;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[os]CR[os]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[js]CR[js]
;W[hs]CR[hs]
;B[nh]CR[nh]
;W[oi]CR[oi]
;B[oj]CR[oj]
;W[ni]CR[ni]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[ho]CR[ho]
;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[og]CR[og]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[eo]CR[eo]
;B[fm]CR[fm]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[ai]CR[ai]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[em]CR[em]
;W[gn]CR[gn]
;B[ea]CR[ea]
;W[fa]CR[fa]
;B[sd]CR[sd]
;W[sc]CR[sc]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[io]CR[io]
;W[so]CR[so]
;B[sq]CR[sq]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[ak]CR[ak]
;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[mh]CR[mh]
;W[mi]CR[mi]
;B[nf]CR[nf]
;W[ha]CR[ha]
;B[ns]CR[ns]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[nm]CR[nm]
;W[is]CR[is]
;B[je]CR[je]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[go]CR[go]
;W[he]CR[he]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[ms]CR[ms]
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Re: New Super Meijin tournament
Peter Hansmeier wrote:Gu Li easily handled both sides
That was not "easily" at all.
By the way, I noticed a "time tesuji". What were the thinking times?
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Re: New Super Meijin tournament
By the way, I noticed a "time tesuji". What were the thinking times?
I don't know if the settings in WBaduk where also the real settings, but in WBaduk it was 480 minutes (8 hours) and 3x60sec byoyomi per player. Only half of the time was actually used by each player (Gu Li used like 30 minutes more than Yuta did).
No typical settings for a time tesuji..
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Re: New Super Meijin tournament
cdybeijing wrote:That was an awesome game!
I agree! Both sides played aggressively, and it was fun to watch. I liked Iyama Yuta's stylish double-attack and how the Chinese kibitzers on WBaduk kept switching between despair to elation.
Harleqin wrote:That was not "easily" at all.
Fair enough, that definitely took some skill, but Iyama Yuta had just enough bad aji in the center. I was surprised White defended at b8 (I thought White was going to defend the other side to take a stab at the black stones).
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Re: New Super Meijin tournament
I'd like to discuss what happened in the lower left in the final. Specifically, how was it possible that a 3-3 invasion of that enclosure could live?
