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( my emphasis )skydyr wrote:I suppose I didn't make it clear originally, but I didn't mean for this to be a necessarily solvable exercise...
I strongly disagree. I think this can be very confusing for someone at oca's current level.illluck wrote:Agreed. It's definitely a good exercise.
Yes, and this is kind of what fuseki means. The literal meaning of fuseki isn't actually opening (Japanese for opening is the less commonly used 'joban') but more like "arraying of stones". In the opening you are trying to sketch out areas of influence with your moves, staking the first claim to areas of the board. Of course there can be interludes of some local skirmishes like a joseki in a corner but fuseki is basically plopping stones around the board. It is quite normal and acceptable for your stones played in the fuseki to get separated later as there will usually be plenty of space for them to make eyespace. As the game progresses to the middlegame discrete groups are formed and the connectedness of your stones becomes more important; for example if you have a weak group involved in a running fight and you need to jump to run away then you should probably jump in a connected way, the one point jump being a very common example (actually it's not totally connected but usually cutting it is not effective).oca wrote: At what I understand, they seems to occure more frequently during the fuseki than the rest of the game. is this correct ?
Completely agree - maybe it would have been better for me to just show starting and ending without the sequence in between - just wanted to illustrate that getting cut is not necessarily bad.EdLee wrote:illluck wrote:can you tell who came out ahead?Have you completely forgotten what it was like when you were at oca's current level (~17k) ???
- This is a 30-move sequence.
- You are asking a beginner to evaluate territory versus potential (after a 30-move sequence !!) ??
- When he is still struggling with basic ataris and liberties !
( Actually, some young children Go students really enjoy "trick" plays like this one.
So, it's fun to get exposure to it, for cultural purposes. But it's also important to think back
and try to remember what your reading ability was when you were still a beginner. )
is 3 spaces from the single stone of 
. The extend n+1 from a wall of n proverb* says that this is too far if we want to maintain connection between the stones (actually white can attach underneath and make some connection). But white doesn't mind if the stones get cut as if black invades he has space to extend to 
making a base for the stone. The stone is now weak but is quite flexible as it can be sacrificed by taking the top right corner at 3-3. Notice that is a 2-space not 3-space extension as white wants it to be connected with to form the base for a stable group. Extending 3 spaces now to one point below would not be a good idea because if black splits that 3-space extension white doesn't have room to extend below as black's shimari is in the way.
) example:
cuts the 12-space extension between 
and 
. So what? If there is not a strategic reason that two stones need to be connected and thought of as a unified group then it doesn't matter if they get separated. I hope that idea is clear now. Next is using that idea to play better moves 
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extend so far from the corner when he can't be sure of connecting his stones? The simple answer is that it doesn't matter if white cuts his stone off: with 
or press an attack, and white has pincered himself and doesn't seem to have much use for that stone at the moment. The point this demonstrates is that if a cut isn't dangerous to you you can reach for more than you can take because that leaves your opponent having to decide whether to expend a move stopping you (possibly putting himself in trouble as well) or just let you take it. Try to stop thinking of who owns the area between two stones and simply ask yourself "will my stones be okay if they get cut?" If the answer is yes then reach further, if it's no then play solidly. Sometimes you'll have to make a judgement call in terms of risk vs reward, but for now try to focus on the most clear cut situations and get a feel for how those work out for you. 
Yup, good stuff. Maybe you implicitly assumed it but it's important to qualify that first point as a two space extension on the third line as being close to the edge gives a lot security. 2 space jumps in the centre of the board are usually quite easy to cut.oca wrote:Thanks for all your comments, here is What I have learned so far :
- I saw that a two space extension, even from a single stone, is not that easy to cut
- ...
Hi oca, as you gain experience at Go, you'll most likelyoca wrote:By the way it seems to me that each line has it's own set of magical rules…
the first line seems quite special...
