$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . W . O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O . . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . . | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . W . O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O . . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . . | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I think sente is too important in this game... I have to keep sente, and this is the move to let me do it. If I were to connect and atari one stone, I think that he would just take tenuki.
Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:23 am
by Magicwand
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . 1 X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . W 2 O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O . . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . . | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O 3 | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . 1 X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . W 2 O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O . . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . . | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O 3 | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
after careful review 'a' is gote so it is not big. i will rather take his sente away from him (this will demoralize him) and give some support to my group in the middle and make sure he doesnt have two eye so i can force him to take my stones at the end plus many other intresting ajis. also 'b' is very big because it will open up invasion on 'c' plus many more intresting ajis. i believe i am winning by slim margin but it is still too early to tell.
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O c . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . b X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . 1 X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . W 2 O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O . . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . . | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O 3 | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . a . . X X X . | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O c . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . b X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . 1 X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . W 2 O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O . . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . . | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O 3 | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . a . . X X X . | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:20 am
by Chew Terr
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . c X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . b 1 X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . W 2 O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . a X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O . . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . x | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O 3 | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . c X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . b 1 X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . W 2 O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . a X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O . . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . x | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O 3 | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 3 seems very gote, which is the opposite of what MW said? I don't see why white would play at x, now that there are only two points in gote there? a-c all seem bigger to me.
Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:47 am
by amnal
Chew Terr wrote:
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . c X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . b 1 X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . W 2 O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . a X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O . . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . x | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O 3 | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . c X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . b 1 X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . W 2 O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . a X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O . . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . x | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O 3 | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 3 seems very gote, which is the opposite of what MW said? I don't see why white would play at x, now that there are only two points in gote there? a-c all seem bigger to me.
I think it has some merit also in that it changes how white can handle a (as black can connect underneath now, so doesn't have to worry about this if white ataris to capture.
It's also reverse sente, of course, and removes some aji from the area.
Whether this is enough to make it the best move...I'm still not sure. It's subtle, if so.
Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:12 am
by Harleqin
This is very kyuish mistake by Black, motivated by "sente envy". There would have been a much bigger reverse sente on the left side, for example.
Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:12 am
by Violence
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O 3 . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . 1 | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X 2 | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O 3 . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . 1 | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X 2 | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
The most important thing here is to keep black separated. I can get more sente forcing moves if I can keep this center group weak.
Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:07 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . B X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . B X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i hate to lost my turn..but this move is necessary to protect my group from dying. also it is pretty big for points.
Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:30 pm
by Violence
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . W X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=10 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . W X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Now to reduce this group to barely anything in sente. It's huge.
Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:20 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=11 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X . B O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=11 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X . B O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i was waiting for this. i am thinking it is his mistake to play this move. i will live with just two eye but it will leave bad aji and i can get back what i lost.
Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:28 pm
by calm
Magicwand wrote:
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=11 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X . B O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=11 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | . X . B O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i was waiting for this. i am thinking it is his mistake to play this move. i will live with just two eye but it will leave bad aji and i can get back what i lost.
@magicwand
What aji?
Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:25 am
by Magicwand
calm wrote:@magicwand
What aji?
i can not tell you for sure now. but aji at 'a' is intresting. i think i can save marked black stone for free. that is enough to take back what i have lost on left.
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=11 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O B b . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . a . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | 1 X 2 X O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=6, B=11 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O B b . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X . a . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | 1 X 2 X O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:59 am
by lorill
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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:08 am
by Harleqin
Wishful thinking, no?
$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O B b . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X 3 a . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | 1 X 2 X O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O B b . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X 3 a . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | 1 X 2 X O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:30 am
by topazg
Harleqin wrote:
Wishful thinking, no?
$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O B b . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X 3 a . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | 1 X 2 X O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O B b . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X 3 a . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | 1 X 2 X O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
That was my feeling too, it looks that way
$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | 9 X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | 8 . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . 0 X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | 6 4 X X 3 . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | 5 O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | 1 X 2 X O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | 7 O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | 9 X O X . . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | 8 . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . 0 X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | 6 4 X X 3 . . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | 5 O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | 1 X 2 X O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | 7 O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:08 am
by Li Kao
Harleqin wrote:Wishful thinking, no?
$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O B b . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X 3 a . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | 1 X 2 X O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . | $$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . | $$ | O O O . . O . . O O X X X O X O X O . | $$ | . X O B b . . . . X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . X X O O X X X O O . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . X X O O . . X . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . X . X O . X . X . . . X X O O X . | $$ | . . X X 3 a . X . X . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . X . | $$ | 1 X 2 X O X O O O . O . O . . . O O . | $$ | O X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . O | $$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O O X | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X X X | $$ | . . X O . X O X X X . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
