$$Wc Move # idontcare - Prisoners: B=15, W=13 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X 2 X O O O X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . . 1 X X O X . X X X X O X | $$ | . . X O X X X X O O O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , O O X X X X X . X | $$ | . . X X O O X X . X O O O . . O X X O | $$ | . X . X X O O X . X O X O X O O O O . | $$ | . X X X O O X X O O O X X X X . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O O O X X . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X O O O X . O O O X X . O X X O | $$ | . . . X O . . . . O X X . X X , X O . | $$ | . . X . O X . . O X X X . O O X O O . | $$ | . . X X O . . . O O O X . O . X X O . | $$ | . X O O . O . . O X X X X O X X X O O | $$ | X X X O O O . . O X O X X O O O O O . | $$ | X O X . X O X . . O . O O . . O O . O | $$ | O O X X X X O O . O O . . X . O X W X | $$ | . O O X X O X . . . . . X O O O X X X | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . O O O X . . . . . . . O O . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wc Move # idontcare - Prisoners: B=15, W=13 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X 2 X O O O X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . . 1 X X O X . X X X X O X | $$ | . . X O X X X X O O O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , O O X X X X X . X | $$ | . . X X O O X X . X O O O . . O X X O | $$ | . X . X X O O X . X O X O X O O O O . | $$ | . X X X O O X X O O O X X X X . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O O O X X . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X O O O X . O O O X X . O X X O | $$ | . . . X O . . . . O X X . X X , X O . | $$ | . . X . O X . . O X X X . O O X O O . | $$ | . . X X O . . . O O O X . O . X X O . | $$ | . X O O . O . . O X X X X O X X X O O | $$ | X X X O O O . . O X O X X O O O O O . | $$ | X O X . X O X . . O . O O . . O O . O | $$ | O O X X X X O O . O O . . X . O X W X | $$ | . O O X X O X . . . . . X O O O X X X | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . O O O X . . . . . . . O O . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
$$Wc Move # idontcare - Prisoners: B=15, W=13 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X X O O O X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . . O X X O X . X X X X O X | $$ | . . X O X X X X O O O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , O O X X X X X . X | $$ | . . X X O O X X . X O O O . . O X X O | $$ | . X . X X O O X . X O X O X O O O O . | $$ | . X X X O O X X O O O X X X X . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O O O X X . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X O O O X . O O O X X . O X X O | $$ | . . . X O . . . . O X X . X X , X O B | $$ | . . X . O X . . O X X X . O O X O O . | $$ | . . X X O . . . O O O X . O . X X O . | $$ | . X O O . O . . O X X X X O X X X O O | $$ | X X X O O O . . O X O X X O O O O O . | $$ | X O X . X O X . . O . O O . . O O . O | $$ | O O X X X X O O . O O . . X . O X O X | $$ | . O O X X O X . . . . . X O O O X X X | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . O O O X . . . . . . . O O . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wc Move # idontcare - Prisoners: B=15, W=13 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X X O O O X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . . O X X O X . X X X X O X | $$ | . . X O X X X X O O O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , O O X X X X X . X | $$ | . . X X O O X X . X O O O . . O X X O | $$ | . X . X X O O X . X O X O X O O O O . | $$ | . X X X O O X X O O O X X X X . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O O O X X . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X O O O X . O O O X X . O X X O | $$ | . . . X O . . . . O X X . X X , X O B | $$ | . . X . O X . . O X X X . O O X O O . | $$ | . . X X O . . . O O O X . O . X X O . | $$ | . X O O . O . . O X X X X O X X X O O | $$ | X X X O O O . . O X O X X O O O O O . | $$ | X O X . X O X . . O . O O . . O O . O | $$ | O O X X X X O O . O O . . X . O X O X | $$ | . O O X X O X . . . . . X O O O X X X | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . O O O X . . . . . . . O O . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
$$Wc Move # idontcare - Prisoners: B=17, W=14 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . 3 X X X O O O X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . 4 . X X O X . X X X X O X | $$ | . . X O X X X X O O O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , O O X X X X X . X | $$ | . . X X O O X X . X O O O . . O X X O | $$ | . X . X X O O X . X O X O X O O O O . | $$ | . X X X O O X X O O O X X X X . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O O O X X . X . X X . 1 | $$ | . O O X O O O X . O O O X X . O X X O | $$ | . . . X O . . . . O X X . X X , X O X | $$ | . . X . O X . . O X X X . O O X O O . | $$ | . . X X O . . . O O O X . O . X X O . | $$ | . X O O . O . . O X X X X O X X X O O | $$ | X X X O O O . . O X O X X O O O O O . | $$ | X O X . X O X . . O . O O . . O O 2 O | $$ | O O X X X X O O . O O . . X . O X 5 X | $$ | . O O X X O X . . . . . X O O O X X X | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . O O O X . . . . . . . O O . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wc Move # idontcare - Prisoners: B=17, W=14 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . 3 X X X O O O X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . 4 . X X O X . X X X X O X | $$ | . . X O X X X X O O O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , O O X X X X X . X | $$ | . . X X O O X X . X O O O . . O X X O | $$ | . X . X X O O X . X O X O X O O O O . | $$ | . X X X O O X X O O O X X X X . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O O O X X . X . X X . 1 | $$ | . O O X O O O X . O O O X X . O X X O | $$ | . . . X O . . . . O X X . X X , X O X | $$ | . . X . O X . . O X X X . O O X O O . | $$ | . . X X O . . . O O O X . O . X X O . | $$ | . X O O . O . . O X X X X O X X X O O | $$ | X X X O O O . . O X O X X O O O O O . | $$ | X O X . X O X . . O . O O . . O O 2 O | $$ | O O X X X X O O . O O . . X . O X 5 X | $$ | . O O X X O X . . . . . X O O O X X X | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . O O O X . . . . . . . O O . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
$$Wc Move # idontcare - Prisoners: B=18, W=14 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . O X X X O O O X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . X . X X O X . X X X X O X | $$ | . . X O X X X X O O O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , O O X X X X X . X | $$ | . . X X O O X X . X O O O . . O X X O | $$ | . X . X X O O X . X O X O X O O O O . | $$ | . X X X O O X X O O O X X X X . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O O O X X . X . X X . O | $$ | . O O X O O O X . O O O X X . O X X O | $$ | . . . X O . . . . O X X . X X , X O X | $$ | . . X . O X . . O X X X . O O X O O . | $$ | . . X X O . . . O O O X . O . X X O . | $$ | . X O O . O . . O X X X X O X X X O O | $$ | X X X O O O . . O X . X X O O O O O . | $$ | X O X . X O X . . O B O O . . O O . O | $$ | O O X X X X O O . O O . . X . O X O X | $$ | . O O X X O X . . . . . X O O O X X X | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . O O O X . . . . . . . O O . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wc Move # idontcare - Prisoners: B=18, W=14 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . O X X X O O O X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . X . X X O X . X X X X O X | $$ | . . X O X X X X O O O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , O O X X X X X . X | $$ | . . X X O O X X . X O O O . . O X X O | $$ | . X . X X O O X . X O X O X O O O O . | $$ | . X X X O O X X O O O X X X X . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O O O X X . X . X X . O | $$ | . O O X O O O X . O O O X X . O X X O | $$ | . . . X O . . . . O X X . X X , X O X | $$ | . . X . O X . . O X X X . O O X O O . | $$ | . . X X O . . . O O O X . O . X X O . | $$ | . X O O . O . . O X X X X O X X X O O | $$ | X X X O O O . . O X . X X O O O O O . | $$ | X O X . X O X . . O B O O . . O O . O | $$ | O O X X X X O O . O O . . X . O X O X | $$ | . O O X X O X . . . . . X O O O X X X | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . O O O X . . . . . . . O O . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
$$Wc Move # idontcare - Prisoners: B=18, W=15 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . O X X X O O O X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . X . X X O X . X X X X O X | $$ | . . X O X X X X O O O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , O O X X X X X . X | $$ | . . X X O O X X . X O O O . . O X X O | $$ | . X . X X O O X . X O X O X O O O O 3 | $$ | . X X X O O X X O O O X X X X . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O O O X X . X . X X 8 O | $$ | . O O X O O O X . O O O X X . O X X O | $$ | . . . X O . . 5 . O X X . X X 6 X O 9 | $$ | . . X . O X . . O X X X . O O X O O 7 | $$ | . 4 X X O . . . O O O X . O . X X O . | $$ | . X O O . O . . O X X X X O X X X O O | $$ | X X X O O O . . O X 2 X X O O O O O . | $$ | X O X . X O X . . O X O O . . O O 1 O | $$ | O O X X X X O O . O O . . X . O X O X | $$ | . O O X X O X . . . . . X O O O X X X | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . O O O X . . . . . . . O O . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wc Move # idontcare - Prisoners: B=18, W=15 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . O X X X O O O X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . X . X X O X . X X X X O X | $$ | . . X O X X X X O O O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , O O X X X X X . X | $$ | . . X X O O X X . X O O O . . O X X O | $$ | . X . X X O O X . X O X O X O O O O 3 | $$ | . X X X O O X X O O O X X X X . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O O O X X . X . X X 8 O | $$ | . O O X O O O X . O O O X X . O X X O | $$ | . . . X O . . 5 . O X X . X X 6 X O 9 | $$ | . . X . O X . . O X X X . O O X O O 7 | $$ | . 4 X X O . . . O O O X . O . X X O . | $$ | . X O O . O . . O X X X X O X X X O O | $$ | X X X O O O . . O X 2 X X O O O O O . | $$ | X O X . X O X . . O X O O . . O O 1 O | $$ | O O X X X X O O . O O . . X . O X O X | $$ | . O O X X O X . . . . . X O O O X X X | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . O O O X . . . . . . . O O . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
if you accept this is the end.
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
I accept the board position. And, if I've counted correctly, that puts me at 1 point behind on board, plus komi, which makes me lose by 1.5 points. I couldn't quite make up the gap after you made that wall. I was hoping you would make a mistake or give up something in the ko... But no such luck.
Thank you for the game. I look forward to playing you at 3 stones.
Magicwand wrote:i dont have a board so i estimate with my reading,..... i think you win by 1 point can you verify that for me?
No, I think you are ahead by 1 on the board, plus komi = 1.5 ahead of me.
really? i thought i was losing 1 point. i think we need to verify to make sure.
i think your ending game was supurb. i didnt find any mistake on your ending game. you played few sequence of moves that i didnt see at the end and made the game closer than i wanted. thank you for great game..
after verification 3 stone? i am sure you will win easily but it will be intresting.
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
Magicwand wrote:i dont have a board so i estimate with my reading,..... i think you win by 1 point can you verify that for me?
No, I think you are ahead by 1 on the board, plus komi = 1.5 ahead of me.
really? i thought i was losing 1 point. i think we need to verify to make sure.
i think your ending game was supurb. i didnt find any mistake on your ending game. you played few sequence of moves that i didnt see at the end and made the game closer than i wanted. thank you for great game..
after verification 3 stone? i am sure you will win easily but it will be intresting.
Thanks for the end game compliment.
I don't have a program, but when I count what's on the board, I see 62 points for black, and 66 for white. I have three more prisoners than you do, so that puts me at (relatively) 65 points to your 66.
I just did Chinese counting on this to not worry about prisoners (after filling dame for both sides) and it comes out W+1.5, so it seems Kirby is right.
$$Wcm163 Move 163 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . a . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . X . . . X . X O O O . . . X X O | $$ | . X O O . O O X . X O X O X O O O O . | $$ | . X X X O . X X O O O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O . O X X . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X O . O B . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O X . . . O X X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . X X O O . . . O X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O | $$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X | $$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm163 Move 163 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . a . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . X . . . X . X O O O . . . X X O | $$ | . X O O . O O X . X O X O X O O O O . | $$ | . X X X O . X X O O O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O . O X X . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X O . O B . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O X . . . O X X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . X X O O . . . O X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O | $$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X | $$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I'm just trying to get big points, now...
You never explained this, but why not the marked stone here, instead of the A on top. I figured it would be taken into consideration. Isn't it a sente sequence?
Starting from black h11, w j12, f11, g10, f12.. Isn't this connection too big to let black get?
$$Wcm163 Move 163 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . a . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . X . . . X . X O O O . . . X X O | $$ | . X O O . O O X . X O X O X O O O O . | $$ | . X X X O . X X O O O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O . O X X . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X O . O B . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O X . . . O X X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . X X O O . . . O X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O | $$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X | $$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm163 Move 163 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . a . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . X . . . X . X O O O . . . X X O | $$ | . X O O . O O X . X O X O X O O O O . | $$ | . X X X O . X X O O O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . X O X O . X O . O X X . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X O . O B . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O X . . . O X X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . X X O O . . . O X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O | $$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X | $$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I'm just trying to get big points, now...
You never explained this, but why not the marked stone here, instead of the A on top. I figured it would be taken into consideration. Isn't it a sente sequence?
Starting from black h11, w j12, f11, g10, f12.. Isn't this connection too big to let black get?
