This is true. A friend described playing against 9 stones to me as "I'm going to die everywhere," and then 100 moves later...jts wrote:At the same time, handicap fuseki is stressful, by design. Maybe others will be horrified, but I tend not to think too hard facing 2+ stones... If I obsess over how horrible and vulnerable my position is, I'll have a headache by the time I see the first mistake. (there is a strange tendency, if you look at the malko games, for observers to make "omg w is a fake Dan can't handle so much handi" kinds of comments. The position looks bad because there's a handicap, people. You can't claw back 2 stones in ten moves.)
A beginner's journal of little interest
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Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Yes, exactly. It is, of course, not good to play in ways that hope for mistakes from your opponents. But playing as though you were reviewing an even game, dismissing variations because they aren't good for white or leave weaknesses and looking for something better... that way lies madness.Boidhre wrote:This is true. A friend described playing against 9 stones to me as "I'm going to die everywhere," and then 100 moves later...
By the way, getting up to get yourself a drink on move 5 is a good way to slow yourself down and think carefully about the fuseki.
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Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Back to 11k for the moment.
Played a 7k friend, got killed all over the board. Some major blunders as per usual. I was playing too often in gote I think. I need to get more real time games in, I've played far too few and my thinking under time pressure has gotten very sloppy.
Anyway, enjoy me getting crushed.
Played a 7k friend, got killed all over the board. Some major blunders as per usual. I was playing too often in gote I think. I need to get more real time games in, I've played far too few and my thinking under time pressure has gotten very sloppy.
Anyway, enjoy me getting crushed.
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Sometimes I see them in potential moves, sometimes I see opportunities to make them in my opponent's moves (though I'm not sure if I should or not). Often I'm oblivious until after the fact.EdLee wrote:Boidhre, broken shapes can take a long time to fix (they did for me).
Are you getting any sense of what they are yet, or, still no feelings at all toward them?
I figure it'll come in time like most things seem to in go.
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Good.Boidhre wrote:(a) Sometimes I see them in potential moves
Yes, bad.Boidhre wrote:(b) Often I'm oblivious until after the fact.
Good...Boidhre wrote:(c) sometimes I see opportunities to make them in my opponent's moves
...yes, this is the next step, and more difficult.Boidhre wrote:(d) though I'm not sure if I should or not.
Hmmm... the most important thing now is (b), IMHO.Boidhre wrote:I figure it'll come in time like most things seem to in go.
Recently, there's a lively discussion here: http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... =10&t=6327
You're still in the very early phase of recognizing/seeing the basic broken shapes.
You must work hard to see them ahead of time; just one move ahead of time, not even two --
Maybe 95%+ of the notes about your broken shapes are only 1-move ahead?
Have you gone through all your games, in this thread alone, multiple times each, just seeing the broken shapes?
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I've tried to keep in mind what shapes are broken when playing. I recognise them in my reviews. I've yet to translate that into seeing them ahead in games. I know the biggest problem for me is the broken keima. I just don't see it far too often. I'm starting to see more of these in my opponent's moves which I assume is the prelude to being able to see them ahead in my own.EdLee wrote:Good.Boidhre wrote:(a) Sometimes I see them in potential movesYes, bad.Boidhre wrote:(b) Often I'm oblivious until after the fact.Good...Boidhre wrote:(c) sometimes I see opportunities to make them in my opponent's moves...yes, this is the next step, and more difficult.Boidhre wrote:(d) though I'm not sure if I should or not.Hmmm... the most important thing now is (b), IMHO.Boidhre wrote:I figure it'll come in time like most things seem to in go.
Recently, there's a lively discussion here: http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... =10&t=6327
You're still in the very early phase of recognizing/seeing the basic broken shapes.
You must work hard to see them ahead of time; just one move ahead of time, not even two --
Maybe 95%+ of the notes about your broken shapes are only 1-move ahead?
Have you gone through all your games, in this thread alone, multiple times each, just seeing the broken shapes?![]()
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Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
I do wonder at the moment, does my depression (current) affect my go? I mean do I play passively, do I play meekly? I do dwell on this a bit, not because my current rank is very important to me, my rank will sort itself out over time, but because I wonder if go is a reflection of one's current mentality. When high, I feel I play with confidence and perhaps above my rank, when low I feel I play under my rank and meekly. Is this perception correct? Do others see it in my go? (Idle question rather than serious
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Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Perhaps it is a matter of impatience. When I am on a losing streak, I often feel the urge to push an advantage too hard and decide the game quickly. This often leads to bad overplay that turns a winning position into a losing one.
There is also fear of uncertainty. When I am feeling weak, I might feel like playing a low move where a high move is appropriate because I like the certainty of the low move. It reduces the number of possible futures for that position. Of course, what I am neglecting is that it eliminates mostly good futures for me if the opponent plays correctly. It's paradoxical. The fear of uncertainty makes me choose the certain loss of profit. This also appears in my habit of playing unnecessary forcing moves so that I can reduce the number of possible futures.
These are all flaws that we exhibit in real life away from the go board.
The psychology of go really spans the entire spectrum of human experience.
There is also fear of uncertainty. When I am feeling weak, I might feel like playing a low move where a high move is appropriate because I like the certainty of the low move. It reduces the number of possible futures for that position. Of course, what I am neglecting is that it eliminates mostly good futures for me if the opponent plays correctly. It's paradoxical. The fear of uncertainty makes me choose the certain loss of profit. This also appears in my habit of playing unnecessary forcing moves so that I can reduce the number of possible futures.
These are all flaws that we exhibit in real life away from the go board.
The psychology of go really spans the entire spectrum of human experience.
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Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
I think this is something that many of us struggle with, depressed or not. I think it's a good idea, whether you are up or down to try to stay aware of any tendency or desire to play meek and cowardly moves and nip it in the bud. My experience is that even when I lose games where I've played what seemed to be the courageous move, the games have been more interesting and more fun than had I chosen the spineless route. Going down the submissive and compliant path leads to games where losing is harder to swallow, so, even if you're down, don't miss the opportunity for a thrilling and invigorating fight.Boidhre wrote:I do wonder at the moment, does my depression (current) affect my go? I mean do I play passively, do I play meekly? I do dwell on this a bit, not because my current rank is very important to me, my rank will sort itself out over time, but because I wonder if go is a reflection of one's current mentality. When high, I feel I play with confidence and perhaps above my rank, when low I feel I play under my rank and meekly. Is this perception correct? Do others see it in my go? (Idle question rather than serious)
Patience, grasshopper.
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Your opponent played very nicely. 
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Visualize whirled peas.
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