Celebrir wrote:@Joaz: Curious to hear your opinion about this move
There is death in the hane.
Kirby said that he wanted to see us have a 20 point lead when he gets back. This might do it. IOW, I'm not sure that I would take white for a 20+7 point komi.
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:59 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
@BLACK:
The hane at M16 is sente. I think that we should play it. The position below is the best that white can get if they ignore it.
It seems this hane is so painful it made andreyl resign Can't say I blame him, white's shapes are pretty ugly. TegaiS said this hane is not sente because black has to answer white's hane, but that's not strictly true, black could do something like this. The 1-2 exchange is already good for black, because even after the atari at 4 (atari of 4 as cut at 5 doesn't seem to work) white would need to come back to defend the cut, and this does not threaten to kill the black group at the top (whereas after the extend at 1 turn at 5 would) so black could tenuki again to a or b or whatever.
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Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:56 am
by skydyr
So, anyone feel like joining the team? Lowercase usernames preferred but not strictly necessary.
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:08 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
Should we allow a takeback?
I don't know what is going on with the other team, but the long delay before moving coupled with the withdrawl of one player soon after the move suggests to me that white is having some kind of serious dispute. The result, IMHO, was a less than ideal move.
So, @observers, black players and white players: should we do a takeback? In particular, @andreyl: would you rejoin if we did?
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:18 pm
by emeraldemon
We can keep going or we can end it here, I'm fine either way.
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:56 am
by skydyr
I got the sense (possibly incorrect) that andreyl may have had scheduling issues or trouble finding time for the game.
I'm fine continuing or not.
@white
Assuming we continue, kosumi as mentioned?
Edit: Thinking about it a bit more, most people who would be interested in participating have most likely read the comments on both sides already, so perhaps it would be better to call it quits and move on.
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:44 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
skydyr wrote:...most people who would be interested in participating have most likely read the comments on both sides already...
It is a small advantage, but I wouldn't mind. I suspect that my teammates would not mind either.
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:59 am
by skydyr
So it's been a week since we called for a volunteer. I'm all for throwing in the towel at this point if no one gets back to us soon.
. But I think we should play it anyway.