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by Aphelion Sat May 07, 2011 7:13 pm
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by topazg Sun May 08, 2011 1:57 pm
Rejected!
$$Bcm13 Move 13 - B:9(0) W:10(1)
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In some way it's frustrating to have a sente move made non-sente by a tenuki, and the double approach is pretty big. On the other hand, White still has to find a way of handling the left side, and the top right temperature has now risen pretty high. It will be interesting to see where the dust settles. One thing I don't think we could allow is this:
$$Bcm13 Move 13 - B:10(1) W:10(1)
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Now the marked White stones (and
) all work wonderfully together. I had wondered about resetting to one of the "a" points as well, as that looks fairly interesting due to White's weaknesses generally (and my correcting here will thicken white up wrt the top side), but I think standard joseki works better in a BB game where corrections are limited. We'll see what MHT does
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by Mnemonic Sun May 08, 2011 3:46 pm
$$Bcm13 Move 14 - B:9(0) W:10(1)
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Yay, first correction!
And it's not my fault. I shouldn't be too happy as I know I messed up the joseki in the top left
Anywho, the response to this move came natural. I'm still a bit worried about a pincer on our top left group seeing as black is so strong, and this move helps, even if it's far away.
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by Simba Fri May 13, 2011 2:11 am
$$Bcm13 Move 14 - B:9(0) W:10(2)
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Still don't think my last move was that bad, but ah well. This one is completely standard. I really don't like this though - white is going to end up with some stones from this joseki that point towards the left and work nicely with what he has in the top left already. Sure, if I sacrificed the corner (which white would likely need two more moves to fully kill) he'd get that too, but at least then we'd have all the left, and I'd get to play somewhere else as well. I'd be hoping to end this joseki in sente then play C10 again but if topaz is not happy with C10, there's not really any point wasting /another/ correction to try to play it
. I considered the P17 joseki here too but white just gets too much nice stuff pointing towards the left again.
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by topazg Fri May 13, 2011 2:18 am
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by Mnemonic Fri May 13, 2011 2:35 am
$$Bcm13 Move 16 - B:9(1) W:10(2)
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Another easy move. I'm expecting a something like this:
$$Bcm13 Move 14 - B:9(0) W:10(2)
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I looked at blacks block for a second and decided it would be suicide to play it. Really nice to have a stone at Q14
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by Violence Fri May 13, 2011 1:24 pm
Approved.
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by Simba Fri May 20, 2011 1:53 pm
$$Bcm13 Move 16 - B:9(1) W:10(3)
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Standard joseki, not a ton to say here. I still want to play C10... Very tempted to play it again after this joseki if I end in sente here... Hopefully Graham won't smack me about too bad about it next time I see him in real life
... I suppose the worst that can happen is he changes it again, but I'm really not at all convinced it's a bad move. But I sadly don't have the vision of a dan player just yet...! I guess his problem with playing it before might've been accentuated by the fact that the top right was in danger, so if I can settle here in sente...
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by topazg Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:12 am
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by Mnemonic Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:39 am
$$Bcm13 Move 16 - B:9(2) W:10(3)
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by Simba Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:39 pm
Hmm, no sign of Violence in a while. He last logged onto the forum on July 26th it said but this thread has been dormant for over a month. Maybe we should send him an email reminder/check if he's still interested? I just don't want to seem impatient is all
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) all work wonderfully together. I had wondered about resetting to one of the "a" points as well, as that looks fairly interesting due to White's weaknesses generally (and my correcting here will thicken white up wrt the top side), but I think standard joseki works better in a BB game where corrections are limited. We'll see what MHT does 
. I considered the P17 joseki here too but white just gets too much nice stuff pointing towards the left again.
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