Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

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[go]$$Bcm33 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X 1 . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . 3 2 , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X 4 . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
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Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

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[go]$$Bcm33 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . 5 . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
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[go]$$Bcm33 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . 5 . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
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Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

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[go]$$Bcm33 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . 7 O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
One of my impressions on this game is that it isn't any harder to visualize outcomes in Redstone than in Go, but because I have a lot more experience with Go than this it's easy to overlook moves that work in this game but are ludicrous in Go (and also to play moves that work in Go but don't in Redstone). For example, if black plays at the point below he captures two stones, but it took me a while to see this because I wasn't expecting it.
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O 1 O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
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[go]$$Bcm33 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | 8 X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . 9 7 O . . 0 . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
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Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

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Nice!
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[go]$$Bc Mutual capture
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O 1 O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O 2 . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bc Result
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . + . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
Edit: Corrected error.
The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins

Visualize whirled peas.

Everything with love. Stay safe.
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Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

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Oops! Previous comment was wrong. :(
The Adkins Principle:
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— Winona Adkins

Visualize whirled peas.

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Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

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[go]$$Bcm43 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . 1 . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
Time to live(?) here.
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
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[go]$$Bcm43 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . 1 . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
Bah humbug. Time to test a theory...
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[go]$$Bcm43 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . 1 . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O c . O . . . . |
$$ | . X O a O b X . . . . |
$$ | . X O d . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
"a" is horrible for me, which I'm trying to fix with "b", so I can let him capture at "c" and play at "d" or something, but nothing really works. This really is a crazy game on captures. But that made me think (careful Graham!):
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[go]$$Bcm43 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . 7 2 3 . |
$$ | . O O O 5 . . 1 6 X 4 |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm50 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . + 1 X . |
$$ | . O O O X . . X . X O |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
Stuff dies really really easily in this game ....
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[go]$$Bcm43 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . X 3 X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
Let's see this theory.
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Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
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No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
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[go]$$Bcm43 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . 4 . O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . X 3 X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
Here goes!
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[go]$$Bcm43 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . 5 O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . X X X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
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[go]$$Bcm43 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . 5 O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O . 6 . X X X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

Bleh, cunning:
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[go]$$Bcm43 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . 8 5 O 9 O . . |
$$ | . O O O . 6 7 X X X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm43 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O 7 O . X X X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
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[go]$$Bcm43 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . 8 X O 9 O . . |
$$ | . O O O 7 O . X X X . |
$$ | + . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | O X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O 0 . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
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