Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:01 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . . . . 6 . . . . | $$ | . 4 . . 5 . . . . 2 . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . 4 . | $$ | . O O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . 2 . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . . O . O O . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . 7 . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:58 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . . . . 6 . . . . | $$ | . 4 . . 5 . . . . 2 . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . 4 . | $$ | . O O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . 2 . | $$ | 8 . O . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . . O . O O . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . 7 . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:03 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | 9 . . . . . 6 . . . . | $$ | . 4 . . 5 . . . . 2 . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . 4 . | $$ | . O O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . 2 . | $$ | 8 . O . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . . O . O O . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . 7 . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

I can't resist reading your hides, Graham. It's a long way from over. Your k8 structure is pretty formidable. Last time I tried going small against a beginner in square Oust, I succeeded, but just barely.

Oust is not a game of parity like Dots and Boxes. It certainly can feel like it because the board gradually fills, leading to an "event" of some sort, like the first player who has to make a kill (assuming they're both reluctant), or the first to make a big group, etc. But such events are not decisive. Oust is a game of comebacks. Whoever loses the event can still win.

hyperpape · Post by **hyperpape** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:50 am

We've already shown that I don't know a thing about this game, but can't Topazg play at the c points, which will help with uh... parity "stuff"?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | a . a . . . 6 . . . a | $$ | . 4 . . 5 . . c . 2 . | $$ | a . . . . . O . . 4 . | $$ | . O O . . . . O O . c | $$ | . . . . . X . . . 2 . | $$ | 8 . O . . . b . . O . | $$ | . . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . a | $$ | . X . X . . O . O O . | $$ | X . . . b . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . 7 . . a | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Also, after

doesn't

become a bad point for Mark? It gives him a 4-string and a safe point to play at e (unless Mark plays there, giving Topazg a 5-string.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm29 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | 1 . 3 . e . O . . . a | $$ | 2 O 4 4 X . . c . O . | $$ | a . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . O O . . . . O O . c | $$ | . . . . . X . . . O . | $$ | O . O . . . b . . O . | $$ | . . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . a | $$ | . X . X . . O . O O . | $$ | X . . . b . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . X . . a | $$ -----------------------[/go]

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:05 pm

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:18 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . 0 . . . . 6 . . . . | $$ | . 4 . . 5 . . . . 2 . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . 4 . | $$ | . O O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . 2 . | $$ | 8 . O . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . . O . O O . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . 7 . . 0 | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Sorry, I'm being an idiot. Too much Loose! (was thinking the colours were going to flip on capture, it makes a huge difference that they don't) - my analysis will wait. This could easily be another gem of a game Mark

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:08 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm31 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . O . . X . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . O O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . O . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | 1 . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . . O . O O . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . X . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

topazg wrote:Sorry, I'm being an idiot. Too much Loose! (was thinking the colours were going to flip on capture, it makes a huge difference that they don't) - my analysis will wait. This could easily be another gem of a game Mark

No worries

At least now I don't have to wonder about the similarity with Othello

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:14 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm31 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . O . . X . . . . O . | $$ | 2 . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . O O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . O . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . O . | $$ | 2 . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . . O . O O . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . X . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Haha, indeed

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:18 pm

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topazg · Post by **topazg** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:24 pm

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MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:27 pm

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topazg · Post by **topazg** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:30 pm

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MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:32 pm

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topazg · Post by **topazg** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:36 pm

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MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:38 pm

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