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Boidhre wrote:

RBerenguel wrote:

Boidhre wrote: I imagine he means that a literal broadcast, especially one with commentary, by a site like IGS would be copyright but the move order would not be subject to such copyright, similar to how it works in chess or with sports where anyone can report what happened but you can't legally rebroadcast say the television pictures or radio commentary of a football game. For instance, Sky has the rights to broadcast most Premier League Soccer games in the UK & Ireland but it is not illegal for someone to watch such a broadcast and then post up in their blog a blow-by-blow account of what happened in the game in their own words.

Although what you write is completely right Boidhre, turns out the Premiership is a bad example according to this reddit link. A company claims ownership of this data. In the US this data is free, not so clear in the UK. Afaik, in the EU it is, too.

Hmm, I'd be really interested to see the result of that court case Yahoo is taking against them.

Me too. It looks like Yahoo should win it easily, but who knows...

Okay, so it's not really industry, and it's not really piracy but... compare http://www.britgo.org/node/3705 and http://www.eurogotv.com

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Andrew Kay wins Challengers League
Thu, 07/06/2012 - 15:49 — Jon Diamond
Tournament Name:
Challengers' League
Venue:
Nippon Club, London
Tournament Date:
1 June 2012 - 4 June 2012

The <snip> Challengers' League is the penultimate event in the Championship cycle. With Matthew Macfadyen in retirement, there is a new sense of interest in who will win take the title this year - it will definitely be a new name on the trophy.

Eight of the UK's finest players descended on the Nippon Club, London from June 1st to 4th, for the all play all event. In first place, with 6 wins from 7, was Andrew 'the Great Destroyer Kay.' There was nearly a 4 way tiebreak for second place, but cream rises to the top, and Nick 'Slowhand' Krempel, played his way to a 5th win, taking outright second.

These two will now meet in the best-of-three Title Match, which will be relayed via KGS. Watch out for more detailed announcements when plans have been finalised. With a mighty 10 titles currently in his possession, Kay must be seen as favourite over last year's defeated finalist, Krempel.

Many thanks are due to Kiyohiko Tanaka, Rippei Hayashi and the Nippon Club for hosting, and Michael Webster and Alistair Wall for sharing the refereeing duties with Jenny Radcliffe.

Javaness2 wrote:Okay, so it's not really industry, and it's not really piracy but... compare http://www.britgo.org/node/3705 and http://www.eurogotv.com
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Yeah, it's not piracy, but it is plagiarism - and surprisingly tacky, especially considering the size of the English speaking go world.

daal wrote: Yeah, it's not piracy, but it is plagiarism - and surprisingly tacky, especially considering the size of the English speaking go world.

I cried for two minutes, then had something to eat

Javaness2 wrote:

daal wrote: Yeah, it's not piracy, but it is plagiarism - and surprisingly tacky, especially considering the size of the English speaking go world.

I cried for two minutes, then had something to eat

I couldn't eat, but I wasn't hungry.

With go books it isn't necessarily piracy. Many go books are by Chinese and for Chinese and the Chinese copyright system is quite different from our own, especially in the mid 20th century, in fact you might be able to find them free on BaiDu. However, if you were to translate the book into to English and expect English copyrights to hold you may be in for a rude surprise. That being said if I am going to put the time into reading and studying the book. I buy the printed copy of it to have the reference. Anyway this could explain why the Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese prefer the magazines and journals, because they would be consistent employment for the authors.