Bill Spight wrote:Seriously, at this point in your go career, you could go up 4 - 5 stones in one week.
I know a few people for whom that was true, or close to true, but I don't think I have that natural talent to be honest. Too many beginner mistakes.
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:20 pm
by EdLee
(;CA[utf-8]FF[4]RU[Japanese]ST[2]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]AB[dd][pd][dj][pj][dp][pp]AP[SmartGo:2.8.3.0] SZ[19]GM[1]GN[GoGoDW2011hanen-7]DT[2012-08-18]PC[KGS]PB[Boidhre]BR[10k]PW[hanen] WR[3k]KM[0.5]HA[6]TM[1800.0]RE[W+4.5]MULTIGOGM[0] ;W[fq]WL[1788.7];B[jq]BL[1795.4];W[cn]WL[1755.8];B[eo]BL[1779.4];W[cq]WL[1747.3] (;B[dq]BL[1771.9]TR[dq][dp][eo]C[B shape a bit heavy. See var.];W[cp]WL[1744.8] (;B[dn]BL[1751.6]LB[cm:a]C[Say W extends to (a) -- you are pushing from behind... See var.] ;W[dr]WL[1742.5];B[er]BL[1749.8];W[cr]WL[1740.5];B[eq]BL[1748.6];W[cm]WL[1739.1] LB[dn:a][cm:b]C[Notice the (a)-(b) exchange -- you pushed from behind.];B[dm]BL[1746.1] ;W[fc]WL[1715.5];B[jc]BL[1722.3];W[nc]WL[1680.9];B[oc]BL[1709.6];W[nd]WL[1677];B[pf] BL[1707.8];W[ef]WL[1673.5];B[cf]BL[1690.8];W[cg]WL[1662.9];B[dg]BL[1663.6];W[df] WL[1660.1];B[ce]BL[1655.7];W[db]WL[1632.7];B[cc]BL[1645.6];W[ch]WL[1624.5];B[cb] BL[1639.7];W[eh]WL[1617.8] (;B[ld]BL[1626.5]LB[fe:a]C[On the upper left, you give W a chance to connect up at (a). See var.] ;W[nf]WL[1585.6] (;B[ec]BL[1572.4]C[See var.];W[fd]WL[1571.7];B[eb]BL[1561.5] (;W[hc]WL[1566.7]LB[ee:a][ff:b]C[Unreasonable? This lets B push-and-cut at (a)-(b). See var.] ;B[hd]BL[1540.2]C[Helps W.];W[id]WL[1556.6];B[ic]BL[1538.6];W[he]WL[1553.7];B[hb] BL[1533.9];W[gb]WL[1540.7];B[gc]BL[1526.1];W[gd]WL[1538.5];B[hc]BL[1524.4];W[fb] WL[1537.6];B[ea]BL[1521.2]C[Why.];W[ie]WL[1533.8];B[ob]BL[1513.4]LB[oc:a][ld:b] C[You play from your stronger side (a) and hurt your weaker side (b).];W[lb]WL[1518.7] ;B[me]BL[1495.1];W[ne]WL[1473.3];B[fg]BL[1482.9];W[eg]WL[1465.4];B[ff]BL[1481.6] ;W[fe]WL[1445.4];B[ee]BL[1464.2];W[gh]WL[1442.8];B[hf]BL[1422.5];W[ig]WL[1430.5] ;B[hg]BL[1400.9];W[hh]WL[1428.7];B[mb]BL[1345.3];W[mc]WL[1423.7];B[nb]BL[1334.5] ;W[lc]WL[1421.4];B[kd]BL[1314.6];W[if]WL[1416.5];B[lg]BL[1302.4];W[nh]WL[1399];B[li] BL[1282.2];W[nj]WL[1390.8] (;B[ol]BL[1271]C[Shape. See var.];W[pg]WL[1389.4];B[qg]BL[1266.4];W[ph]WL[1388.1] ;B[qh]BL[1264.9];W[lk]WL[1375.6];B[mk]BL[1256.9];W[mj]WL[1371.5];B[lj]BL[1255.5] ;W[mh]WL[1369.5];B[lh]BL[1253.5];W[of]WL[1368.4];B[pe]BL[1244.1];W[pi]WL[1367];B[qi] BL[1242.4];W[oj]WL[1365.6];B[pk]BL[1238.2];W[mf]WL[1363];B[lf]BL[1236];W[mg]WL[1340.7] ;B[kk]BL[1225.5];W[ll]WL[1338.8] (;B[kj]BL[1223.1]C[See var.];W[kl]WL[1330.8];B[jl]BL[1212.1];W[nl]WL[1328.6] (;B[nk]BL[1208.3]C[See var.];W[ok]WL[1326.6] (;B[jk]BL[1198.7]C[See var.];W[qq]WL[1320.3];B[pq]BL[1194];W[qp]WL[1318.5];B[qo] BL[1192.4];W[ro]WL[1317.7];B[qn]BL[1191.1];W[pr]WL[1311.4];B[or]BL[1189.7];W[qr] WL[1310.6];B[nq]BL[1187.6];W[rn]WL[1309.3];B[qm]BL[1185.9];W[dl]WL[1302.5];B[el] BL[1182.5];W[ek]WL[1301.2];B[dk]BL[1174.7];W[cl]WL[1299.6];B[nm]BL[1144.2];W[mm] WL[1295.8];B[nn]BL[1137.4];W[lo]WL[1287.8];B[lq]BL[1124.8];W[fl]WL[1282.9];B[em] BL[1122.9];W[fk]WL[1280.2];B[jm]BL[1101.2];W[gn]WL[1265.9];B[go]BL[1096.8];W[ho] WL[1255.4];B[hn]BL[1085.6];W[fo]WL[1253.9];B[gp]BL[1083.3];W[fp]WL[1250.6];B[fn] BL[1076.6];W[gm]WL[1249.2];B[gq]BL[1069.7];W[im]WL[1244.4];B[jn]BL[1046.5];W[in] WL[1239.3];B[io]BL[1043.8];W[hp]WL[1237.2];B[hq]BL[1041.3];W[ip]WL[1236];B[jo]BL[1039] ;W[hm]WL[1233.1];B[jp]BL[1035.9];W[fr]WL[1227.4];B[es]BL[1032.8];W[gr]WL[1226.1] ;B[hr]BL[1030.1];W[co]WL[1222.1];B[do]BL[1025.7];W[fm]WL[1219.2];B[en]BL[1024];W[rm] WL[1209];B[gs]BL[999.2];W[pl]WL[1171.9];B[ql]BL[975.1];W[om]WL[1168.6];B[pm]BL[958.2] ;W[on]WL[1167.1];B[no]BL[949.7];W[ol]WL[1161.2];B[po]BL[946];W[sj]WL[1155.4];B[rj] BL[940.4];W[sk]WL[1150.4];B[si]BL[938.5];W[rl]WL[1148.5];B[rk]BL[933.9];W[sl]WL[1147.2] ;B[la]BL[921.4];W[ka]WL[1131.5];B[ma]BL[892];W[kc]WL[1130.1];B[jd]BL[889.9];W[jb] WL[1128.9];B[hj]BL[830.7];W[gj]WL[1119.9];B[hi]BL[825.1];W[ii]WL[1117];B[ij]BL[822.4] ;W[gi]WL[1115.1];B[jh]BL[820.3];W[ih]WL[1111.6];B[ji]BL[817.9];W[kf]WL[1107.4];B[kg] BL[802];W[ke]WL[1105.8];B[le]BL[800.7];W[hk]WL[1100.1];B[ik]BL[798.3];W[il]WL[1083.7] ;B[jf]BL[778.4];W[je]WL[1076.4];B[jg]BL[776.6];W[bf]WL[1075.5];B[be]BL[774.8];W[bg] WL[1073.3];B[ae]BL[769.6];W[os]WL[1064.1];B[ns]BL[766.3];W[ps]WL[1063.3];B[oo]BL[762.2] ;W[mo]WL[1061.5];B[mp]BL[754.8];W[lp]WL[1058.5];B[ln]BL[729.2];W[mn]WL[1055.1];B[lm] BL[725.9];W[kp]WL[1046.6];B[kq]BL[723.8];W[iq]WL[1045];B[ir]BL[721.5];W[hn]WL[1043.7] ;B[km]BL[704.3];W[ml]WL[1041.2];B[ko]BL[676.3];W[mi]WL[1021.7];B[af]BL[666.6];W[ag] WL[1019.2];B[fa]BL[633];W[ds]WL[842.2];B[fs]BL[627.1];W[ga]WL[828];B[ed]BL[609.5] ;W[]WL[806.5];B[]BL[589.9]TB[pb][cd][rg][qd][sg][kh][jj][qj][kn][fo][ep][np][oq] [gr][ca][jr][nr][hs][aa][mq][na][db]TW[kb][ge][ff][dg][ng][ah][oh][ci][ei][ni][gk] [mk][hl][rp][cs][qs][hf][sm]) (;B[jm]C[Important. Extend out. Big difference.];W[jk];B[ik];W[jj];B[ii]C[Basic shape.])) (;B[jm]C[Extend out. Important.];W[jk];B[ik];W[jj];B[ii]C[Basic shape.])) (;B[jj])) (;B[ph]LB[li:a]C[But you still have to worry about (a).])) (;W[gf]C[W needs to fix his cut.])) (;B[fd])) (;B[fd])) (;B[dm]LB[gp:a][dq:b][dn:c][em:d]C[Jump ahead -- same idea as (a) instead of (b). If W push-and-cuts with (c)-(d), you welcome the fight.])) (;B[gp]LB[eo:a][cp:b][dq:c][gq:d]C[Your follow-up is (d). After (a), both (b) and (c) become less big.]))
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:30 pm
by Boidhre
Thank you for the review Ed, some valuable insights for me there.
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:54 pm
by Bill Spight
Boidhre wrote:
Bill Spight wrote:Seriously, at this point in your go career, you could go up 4 - 5 stones in one week.
I know a few people for whom that was true, or close to true, but I don't think I have that natural talent to be honest. Too many beginner mistakes.
I must disagree. You show a good bit of natural talent. That is one thing that has attracted so many players to your journal.
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:59 pm
by Boidhre
Bill Spight wrote:
Boidhre wrote:
Bill Spight wrote:Seriously, at this point in your go career, you could go up 4 - 5 stones in one week.
I know a few people for whom that was true, or close to true, but I don't think I have that natural talent to be honest. Too many beginner mistakes.
I must disagree. You show a good bit of natural talent. That is one thing that has attracted so many players to your journal.
Thanks Bill.
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:05 pm
by Bill Spight
Some comments.
(;SZ[19]FF[4]AP[GOWrite:2.2.21]ST[2]CA[UTF-8]GM[1]KM[0.5]WR[3k]GN[GoGoDW2011hanen-7]RE[W+4.50]RU[Japanese]PM[0]PC[The KGS Go Server at http\://www.gokgs.com/]HA[6]PW[hanen]DT[2012-08-18]PB[Boidhre]FG[775:]BR[10k]AB[pj][dd][dp][pp][dj][pd]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]TM[1800.0]C[Boidhre \[10k?\]\: have a niice game hanen \[3k\]\: you too ] ;W[fq]WL[1788.7]C[Boidhre \[10k?\]\: *nice \:) ] ( ;BL[1795.4]B[jq]C[*** See variation.] ;W[cn]WL[1755.8] ;BL[1779.4]B[eo] ;W[cq]WL[1747.3] ( ;BL[1771.9]B[dq]C[*** See variation.] ;W[cp]WL[1744.8] ( ;BL[1751.6]B[dn]C[*** See variation.] ;W[dr]WL[1742.5] ;BL[1749.8]B[er] ;W[cr]WL[1740.5] ;BL[1748.6]B[eq] ;W[cm]WL[1739.1] ( ;BL[1746.1]B[dm]C[*** Pushing from behind. See variation.] ;W[fc]WL[1715.5] ;BL[1722.3]B[jc] ;W[nc]WL[1680.9] ( ;BL[1709.6]B[oc]C[*** Strengthens White. See variation.] ;W[nd]WL[1677.0] ;BL[1707.8]B[pf] ;W[ef]WL[1673.5]C[*** Time to think. Your previous plan was to attack the White stones in the top right. Has White offered you anything better? Is the top left more urgent now?] ( ;BL[1690.8]B[cf]C[*** See variation.] ;W[cg]WL[1662.9] ( ;BL[1663.6]B[dg]C[*** An overplay. See variation.] ;W[df]WL[1660.1] ;BL[1655.7]B[ce] ;W[db]WL[1632.7] ( ;BL[1645.6]B[cc]C[*** A bit passive.] ;W[ch]WL[1624.5] ;BL[1639.7]B[cb] ;W[eh]WL[1617.8] ( ;BL[1626.5]B[ld]C[*** Small. See variation.] ;W[nf]WL[1585.6] ;BL[1572.4]B[ec]C[*** Small. White can easily give up one stone.] ;W[fd]WL[1571.7] ;BL[1561.5]B[eb] ;W[hc]WL[1566.7] ;BL[1540.2]B[hd] ;W[id]WL[1556.6] ;BL[1538.6]B[ic] ;W[he]WL[1553.7] ;BL[1533.9]B[hb] ;W[gb]WL[1540.7] ;BL[1526.1]B[gc] ;W[gd]WL[1538.5] ;BL[1524.4]B[hc] ;W[fb]WL[1537.6] ;BL[1521.2]B[ea]C[*** Small.] ;W[ie]WL[1533.8] ( ;BL[1513.4]B[ob]C[*** Too defensive. See variation.] ;W[lb]WL[1518.7] ;BL[1495.1]B[me] ;W[ne]WL[1473.3] ;BL[1482.9]B[fg] ;W[eg]WL[1465.4] ;BL[1481.6]B[ff] ;W[fe]WL[1445.4] ;BL[1464.2]B[ee] ;W[gh]WL[1442.8] ;BL[1422.5]B[hf] ;W[ig]WL[1430.5] ;BL[1400.9]B[hg] ;W[hh]WL[1428.7]C[*** Nice try.] ( ;BL[1345.3]B[mb]C[*** See variation.] ;W[mc]WL[1423.7] ;BL[1334.5]B[nb]C[*** All you have done is to strengthen White.] ;W[lc]WL[1421.4] ;BL[1314.6]B[kd] ;W[if]WL[1416.5] ;BL[1302.4]B[lg] ;W[nh]WL[1399.0] ;BL[1282.2]B[li] ;W[nj]WL[1390.8] ( ;BL[1271.0]B[ol]C[*** See variation.] ;W[pg]WL[1389.4] ;BL[1266.4]B[qg] ;W[ph]WL[1388.1] ;BL[1264.9]B[qh] ;W[lk]WL[1375.6] ;BL[1256.9]B[mk] ;W[mj]WL[1371.5] ;BL[1255.5]B[lj] ;W[mh]WL[1369.5] ;BL[1253.5]B[lh] ;W[of]WL[1368.4] ;BL[1244.1]B[pe] ;W[pi]WL[1367.0] ;BL[1242.4]B[qi] ;W[oj]WL[1365.6] ;BL[1238.2]B[pk] ;W[mf]WL[1363.0] ;BL[1236.0]B[lf] ;W[mg]WL[1340.7] ;BL[1225.5]B[kk] ;W[ll]WL[1338.8] ( ;BL[1223.1]B[kj]C[*** See variation.] ;W[kl]WL[1330.8] ;BL[1212.1]B[jl] ;W[nl]WL[1328.6] ;BL[1208.3]B[nk] ;W[ok]WL[1326.6]C[*** Oops!] ( ;BL[1198.7]B[jk]C[*** See variation.] ;W[qq]WL[1320.3] ;BL[1194.0]B[pq] ;W[qp]WL[1318.5] ;BL[1192.4]B[qo] ;W[ro]WL[1317.7] ;BL[1191.1]B[qn] ;W[pr]WL[1311.4] ;BL[1189.7]B[or] ;W[qr]WL[1310.6] ;BL[1187.6]B[nq] ;W[rn]WL[1309.3] ;BL[1185.9]B[qm] ;W[dl]WL[1302.5] ;BL[1182.5]B[el] ;W[ek]WL[1301.2] ;BL[1174.7]B[dk] ;W[cl]WL[1299.6] ( ;BL[1144.2]B[nm]C[*** Small. See variation. Last comment.] ;W[mm]WL[1295.8] ;BL[1137.4]B[nn] ;W[lo]WL[1287.8] ;BL[1124.8]B[lq] ;W[fl]WL[1282.9] ;BL[1122.9]B[em] ;W[fk]WL[1280.2] ;BL[1101.2]B[jm] ;W[gn]WL[1265.9] ;BL[1096.8]B[go] ;W[ho]WL[1255.4] ;BL[1085.6]B[hn] ;W[fo]WL[1253.9] ;BL[1083.3]B[gp] ;W[fp]WL[1250.6] ;BL[1076.6]B[fn] ;W[gm]WL[1249.2] ;BL[1069.7]B[gq] ;W[im]WL[1244.4] ;BL[1046.5]B[jn] ;W[in]WL[1239.3] ;BL[1043.8]B[io] ;W[hp]WL[1237.2] ;BL[1041.3]B[hq] ;W[ip]WL[1236.0] ;BL[1039.0]B[jo] ;W[hm]WL[1233.1] ;BL[1035.9]B[jp] ;W[fr]WL[1227.4] ;BL[1032.8]B[es] ;W[gr]WL[1226.1] ;BL[1030.1]B[hr] ;W[co]WL[1222.1] ;BL[1025.7]B[do] ;W[fm]WL[1219.2] ;BL[1024.0]B[en] ;W[rm]WL[1209.0] ;BL[999.2]B[gs] ;W[pl]WL[1171.9] ;BL[975.1]B[ql] ;W[om]WL[1168.6] ;BL[958.2]B[pm] ;W[on]WL[1167.1] ;BL[949.7]B[no] ;W[ol]WL[1161.2] ;BL[946.0]B[po] ;W[sj]WL[1155.4] ;BL[940.4]B[rj] ;W[sk]WL[1150.4] ;BL[938.5]B[si] ;W[rl]WL[1148.5] ;BL[933.9]B[rk] ;W[sl]WL[1147.2] ;BL[921.4]B[la] ;W[ka]WL[1131.5] ;BL[892.0]B[ma] ;W[kc]WL[1130.1] ;BL[889.9]B[jd] ;W[jb]WL[1128.9] ;BL[830.7]B[hj] ;W[gj]WL[1119.9] ;BL[825.1]B[hi] ;W[ii]WL[1117.0] ;BL[822.4]B[ij] ;W[gi]WL[1115.1] ;BL[820.3]B[jh] ;W[ih]WL[1111.6] ;BL[817.9]B[ji] ;W[kf]WL[1107.4] ;BL[802.0]B[kg] ;W[ke]WL[1105.8] ;BL[800.7]B[le] ;W[hk]WL[1100.1] ;BL[798.3]B[ik] ;W[il]WL[1083.7] ;BL[778.4]B[jf] ;W[je]WL[1076.4] ;BL[776.6]B[jg] ;W[bf]WL[1075.5] ;BL[774.8]B[be] ;W[bg]WL[1073.3] ;BL[769.6]B[ae] ;W[os]WL[1064.1] ;BL[766.3]B[ns] ;W[ps]WL[1063.3] ( ;BL[762.2]B[oo]C[*** I think that I have found the game winning play for Black. See variation.] ;W[mo]WL[1061.5] ;BL[754.8]B[mp] ;W[lp]WL[1058.5] ;BL[729.2]B[ln] ;W[mn]WL[1055.1] ;BL[725.9]B[lm] ( ;W[kp]WL[1046.6]C[*** See variation.] ;BL[723.8]B[kq] ;W[iq]WL[1045.0] ;BL[721.5]B[ir] ;W[hn]WL[1043.7] ;BL[704.3]B[km] ;W[ml]WL[1041.2] ;BL[676.3]B[ko] ;W[mi]WL[1021.7] ;BL[666.6]B[af] ;W[ag]WL[1019.2] ;BL[633.0]B[fa] ;W[ds]WL[842.2] ;BL[627.1]B[fs] ;W[ga]WL[828.0] ;BL[609.5]B[ed] ;W[tt]WL[806.5] ;TW[ah:bh][ai:fj][ak:dk][al:br][as:cs][dg:dh][ff:hg][fh][gk][gl:hl][mk:nk][ng:og][ni:oi][oh][qs:ss][rp:sr][sm:so]BL[589.9]TB[aa:da][ab:bc][ad:cd][db:dc][ep:fp][fo][fq][fr:gr][hs:ms][jj][jr:nr][kh:ki][kn][mq][na:sa][np:op][oq][pb:sc][qd:sf][qj:qk][rg:sh][ri]B[tt]C[Boidhre \[10k?\]\: thank you for the game hanen \[3k\]\: white minus 2 points, w + 2.5 hanen \[3k\]\: l18, and g15 are both false points Boidhre \[10k?\]\: ah yeah hanen \[3k\]\: thanks for the game hanen \[3k\]\: 6 stones hanen \[3k\]\: was tough Boidhre \[10k?\]\: have I improved? hanen \[3k\]\: you were very spot on with your moves hanen \[3k\]\: well i had a hard time trying to catch up Boidhre \[10k?\]\: mind if I get this reviewed? hanen \[3k\]\: sure hanen \[3k\]\: go ahead Boidhre \[10k?\]\: thanks ] ) ( ;W[mr] ( ;B[mq] ;W[nr] ;B[oq] ) ( ;B[nr] ;W[mq] ;B[np] ;W[kq] ;B[lr] ;W[kr] ;B[ms] ;W[kp] )
)
) ( ;B[ln] ;W[mn] ;B[mo] ;W[kn] ;B[km] ;W[lm] ;B[lp]C[*** No ko.] ;W[oo]C[*** White plays a 1 pt. sente., with a bigger threat than Black's gote.] ;B[ds]C[*** Black plays a 1 pt. sente with an even bigger threat.] ;W[cs] ;B[op] ;W[ml] ;B[iq] ;W[hn] ;B[ko] ;W[ln] ;B[af] ;W[ia] ;B[ag] ;W[ah] ;B[ha] ;W[ib] ;B[mi] ;W[ni]TW[ai:fj][ak:dk][al:bs][bh][dg:dh][ff:hg][fh][gk][gl:hl][ja][kb][mk:nk][ng:og][oh:oi][qs:ss][rp:sr][sm:so]TB[aa:da][ab:bc][ad:cd][db:dc][ep:fp][fo][fq][fr:gr][fs][hs:ms][ir:nr][jj][kh:ki][kp:kq][mp:np][mq][na:sa][oq][pb:sc][qd:sf][qj:qk][rg:sh][ri]C[*** Black wins by 0.5.] )
) ( ;B[fl] ;W[fj] ;B[jo] )
) ( ;B[jm] ;W[jk] ;B[ik] ;W[jj] ;B[ii] )
) ( ;B[jj] )
) ( ;B[lk]C[*** Big.] )
) ( ;B[lc] ;W[mb] ;B[lg]C[*** Keep up the attack.] ;W[ke] ;B[le] )
) ( ;B[lf]C[*** Keep White cut off.] )
) ( ;B[je] ( ;W[mg] ;B[fe] ;W[hc] ;B[he] ) ( ;W[id] ;B[jd] ;W[mg] ;B[jg]C[*** Looking both ways to attack.] )
)
) ( ;B[ch]C[*** Settles quickly. White is still unsettled.] )
) ( ;B[je]C[*** Why not stick to your original plan?] ( ;W[cf]C[*** If White plays here, . . .] ;B[fd]C[*** Black can push through and divide White here.] ) ( ;W[db]C[*** If White plays here, . . .] ;B[fd]C[*** Black can push through.] )
( ;W[ed]C[*** If White plays here, . . .] ( ;B[dc] ;W[de] ;B[bd]C[*** Maybe not best, but Black can live in the corner.] ) ( ;B[de] ;W[dc] ;B[cc] ( ;W[db] ;B[cg]C[*** Easy for Black.] ) ( ;W[cb] ;B[db] ;W[eb] ;B[ec]C[***Ko fight. Here is a possible continuation.] ;W[id] ;B[jd] ;W[dc] ;B[co] ;W[bo] ;B[ec] ;W[pe] ;B[qe] ;W[dc] ;B[ee] ;W[fe] ;B[ec] ;W[oe] ;B[fd] ;W[qd] ;B[rd] ;W[qc] ;B[qf]C[*** Not a bad exchange for Black.] )
)
)
)
) ( ;B[je]C[*** Divide and conquer.] )
) ( ;B[el] )
) ( ;B[em]C[*** Simple and strong.] )
) ( ;B[jd] )
) ( ;B[hp]C[*** Not too many variations with this pincer.] )
)
Edit: Added variations at 206 and 213.
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:13 pm
by Boidhre
Thanks again Bill.
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:09 pm
by Boidhre
mitsun wrote:For reference, W is completely alive below. It pays to learn this basic shape, so that you do not have to read it out every time it occurs in one of your games.
$$Alive $$ -------------- $$ . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . O . . | $$ . . X . X O . O | $$ . . . . X X O . | $$ . . . . . . X . | $$ . . . . . X . . | $$ . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . |
[go]$$Alive $$ -------------- $$ . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . O . . | $$ . . X . X O . O | $$ . . . . X X O . | $$ . . . . . . X . | $$ . . . . . X . . | $$ . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . |[/go]
I'm still struggling with this one by the way mitsun, admittedly on and off as the mood takes me. I'm trying to see why Black can't force the ko here with the same move order and am missing something basic.
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:52 pm
by EdLee
Boidhre wrote:trying to see why Black can't force the ko
Do you mean ?
$$B $$ ----------------- $$ . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . O . . | $$ . . X . X O . O | $$ . . . . X X O . | $$ . . . . . . X . | $$ . . . . . X . 1 | $$ . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . |
[go]$$B $$ ----------------- $$ . . . . . . 1 . | $$ . . . . . O . . | $$ . . X . X O . O | $$ . . . . X X O . | $$ . . . . . . X . | $$ . . . . . X . . | $$ . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . |[/go]
It's pretty annoying:
(;CA[utf-8]AB[fc][gd][he][gf][dc]AW[hd][gc][ic][gb]AP[MultiGo:4.4.4]SZ[9]AB[fd] MULTIGOGM[0] ;B[ha];W[hb];B[ie];W[ia] (;B[ib];W[ga];B[id];W[hc]LB[fb:a][eb:b]C[With (a)-(b) exchange, W cannot connect here.]) (;B[id];W[hc];B[ib];W[ga]LB[fb:a][eb:b]C[With (a)-(b) exchange, W cannot descend here.]))
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:18 pm
by Loons
Boidhre wrote:
mitsun wrote:For reference, W is completely alive below. It pays to learn this basic shape, so that you do not have to read it out every time it occurs in one of your games.
$$Alive $$ -------------- $$ . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . O . . | $$ . . X . X O . O | $$ . . . . X X O . | $$ . . . . . . X . | $$ . . . . . X . . | $$ . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . |
[go]$$Alive $$ -------------- $$ . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . O . . | $$ . . X . X O . O | $$ . . . . X X O . | $$ . . . . . . X . | $$ . . . . . X . . | $$ . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . |[/go]
I'm still struggling with this one by the way mitsun, admittedly on and off as the mood takes me. I'm trying to see why Black can't force the ko here with the same move order and am missing something basic.
Not so much missing something basic as missing something fancy and stylish. Under NZ rules black would have one more ko threat here.
Re:
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:22 pm
by Boidhre
EdLee wrote:
Boidhre wrote:trying to see why Black can't force the ko
Do you mean ?
$$B $$ ----------------- $$ . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . O . . | $$ . . X . X O . O | $$ . . . . X X O . | $$ . . . . . . X . | $$ . . . . . X . 1 | $$ . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . |
Edit: Bad sgf first time around, fixed now I think.
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:50 am
by Boidhre
More and more I become more comfortable and confident in even games and more aware of my weaknesses in handicap games. I'm not sure if it's because I enjoy even games more or because of a lack of exposure to handicap games that aren't very high handicap (until recently, everyone else at the club was either 9 stones+ stronger or 9 stones weaker than me). Has anyone any advice about handicap games in general? Should I look to study this area?
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:50 am
by Bill Spight
Boidhre wrote:Has anyone any advice about handicap games in general? Should I look to study this area?
The usual advice is to play a 2 stone game pretty much like an even game. When taking 4 stones or more, attack like hell. When giving 4 stones or more, try to make the game close.
BTW, I have added a couple of variations to the previous game at #411.
Ed.