Life In 19x19

tentano wrote:Other choice quotes from my encounters with Japanese griefers

Infantile behaviour has no age limit that I know of.

Nor racial.

Krama wrote:Any ideas on how to beat the bad move anxiety?

Hi Krama,

Same question to virre: Have you have this (anxiety) experience in other fields ?

Play bad moves on purpose, then you won't worry about doing them!

EdLee wrote:

Krama wrote:Any ideas on how to beat the bad move anxiety?

Hi Krama,

Same question to virre: Have you have this (anxiety) experience in other fields ?

Hmm, not really.

Uberdude wrote:Play bad moves on purpose, then you won't worry about doing them!

Heh, I might try that but I think my ego won't allow myself to play the moves that I know are bad.

Krama wrote:

EdLee wrote:

Krama wrote:Any ideas on how to beat the bad move anxiety?

Hi Krama,

Same question to virre: Have you have this (anxiety) experience in other fields ?

Hmm, not really.

Uberdude wrote:Play bad moves on purpose, then you won't worry about doing them!

Heh, I might try that but I think my ego won't allow myself to play the moves that I know are bad.

You are not playing on the level of a professional, and so your understanding is not the understanding of a pro player. This is true for practically all of us here, and is no shame. Undoubtedly, the relatively poorer judgement means that you play moves you think are good but which are bad. Have you considered, however, that this same judgement may judge moves to be bad which are actually good?

Perhaps they require a later tesuji that you haven't thought of, or can't read all the way to the end, or your positional analysis doesn't take into account the aji it brings in to play as a sacrifice, or something completely different? Perhaps they're perfectly playable, but they take the game in a direction you're not comfortable with?

Uberdude wrote:Play bad moves on purpose, then you won't worry about doing them!

That reminds me of something I have wondered about advising players to try as an exercise. Instead of playing the move that you think is best, play the one that you think is second best -- excluding plays that you must play, OC. I think that the results could be surprising.

Bill Spight wrote:

Uberdude wrote:Play bad moves on purpose, then you won't worry about doing them!

That reminds me of something I have wondered about advising players to try as an exercise. Instead of playing the move that you think is best, play the one that you think is second best -- excluding plays that you must play, OC. I think that the results could be surprising.

In what is probably my favourite Go book, The Way of Creating a Thick and Strong Game, Hane Naoki gives some related advice. Some quotes from his foreward:

"And not only in go but in all games, one should be satisfied with an 80% result, not avariciously striving for more, overreaching and meeting with an unfortunate setback."

"So I am satisfied to settle for a second best measure. It may be said, in the end, I stick to filling my stomach to 80%"

Admittedly he is talking about results rather than moves, so it may be that the 2nd best move for a four move sequence gives the 16th best result

I've thought a lot about online anxiety and found that mine is due to one thing: A game of Go requires a lot of concentration and and can take a long time (I had a game go over four hours last night). This being said, committing to play a game is quite an undertaking. I realized this because I never had anxiety when sitting down to play against a bot. This is because I can just quit the game, or even pause it and comeback at any time. So now, when I sense anxiety before I play, I just ask myself if I REALLY want to sit down and play right this second or if I'd rather play later. Often, I'll settle for just playing a 9x9 or 13x13 first which usually gets me hungry for a 19x19.