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Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:32 pm
by Solomon
And it looks like another well-known SC2 figure is a fan, I mean look at the way he's tapping his Hatchery hotkey: http://i.imgur.com/s3QlD.jpg

Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:33 pm
by tealeaf
Arr. Ye all be landlubbers...

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I'm a huge fan of the wired Apple keyboards, though. Bizarrely enough, I use and love both Apple keyboards and Microsoft mice; I just wish that both companies would stick to what they're good at and stop dabbling in software. ;)

I use the Apple keyboard at work and at home if I'm in the mood to have a "proper" setup. Most of the time, though, I just use the built-in keyboard on my Thinkpad (X201) because I enjoy having an uncluttered desk with just the laptop on it.

I've always been lucky enough to enjoy typing on laptop keyboards, starting on a Toshiba Portege at school. That was also the time when I forced myself to forget my self-taught typing style and learn correct touch-typing; it took a few weeks and was worth every minute.

Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:16 pm
by Fedya
Nobody uses any of these?

Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:02 am
by Koosh
I particularly like the blank keyboard palapiku posted!

I've been using the Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard at my work now for about 6 months.
The space bar drove me crazy for a few months while I whacked the stiffness out of it, but now it works just fine.

My hands and wrists feel so relaxed using this type of split keyboard. I'm pretty happy that I switched instead of using the factory Dell keyboards everyone gets stuck with here.

The extra features are all pretty useless though, like most keyboards.

I would learn Dvorak if I didn't have to use Airline software. It was hard enough learning those wacky input formulas as it is.

Anyone here have complete fluency between both typing styles (Dvorak and Qwerty)?

Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:22 am
by fwiffo
If was going to switch layouts, it would be to Colemak. But I use vim, which isn't really compatible with non Qwerty layouts at all.

Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:10 pm
by fwiffo
Finally got a second Filco for work to match the one I have at home.
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Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:58 pm
by palapiku
Koosh wrote:Anyone here have complete fluency between both typing styles (Dvorak and Qwerty)?

I probably could if I tried, but I've been consciously avoiding Dvorak to make the switch to QWERTY less painful. And I'm not *entirely* fluent with QWERTY I guess (particularly having problems with g and h for some reason).

I can tell you Dvorak is indeed much nicer. QWERTY has some common and very annoying combinations, like 'rt' or 'be'. There's appreciably less finger movement and awkward stretches with Dvorak.

Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:01 pm
by Jordus
Fedya wrote:Nobody uses any of these?


I have the roll up keyboard!!! Mine is black though...

Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:14 pm
by palapiku
fwiffo wrote:If was going to switch layouts, it would be to Colemak. But I use vim, which isn't really compatible with non Qwerty layouts at all.

Sure it is. I used it with Dvorak for years.

Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:38 pm
by fwiffo
How do you hjkl with hjkl in the wrong place?

Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:45 pm
by palapiku
fwiffo wrote:How do you hjkl with hjkl in the wrong place?

How do you hjkl with hjkl in the wrong place?

Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:07 pm
by fwiffo
Um, they're the direction keys in vim, and they're adjacent on qwerty and all over the place on Dvorak... It's like having your arrow keys scattered around your keyboard.

Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:14 pm
by palapiku
hjkl being physically adjacent doesn't really help in any way.

Qwerty makes it worse in my opinion. Why isn't it at least jkl; ? Are you supposed to move your entire hand left if you want to use all four? What a joke.

hjkl on dvorak is very intuitive: up and down are on one hand and close to one another. Left and right are on the other hand, left is on the left and right is on the right. Dvorak successfully does its intended function of splitting the workload between the two hands.

Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:50 am
by Li Kao
I've switched from the German layout to the US layout because the layout of the special characters is lacking in the German layout. And as a programmer I need them all the time.
While I like the new layout better it has the big disadvantage that typing on other peoples computers is painful. So I'm not sure if it was the right decision.

Re: Keyboards.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:50 am
by hyperpape
palapiku wrote:Qwerty makes it worse in my opinion. Why isn't it at least jkl; ? Are you supposed to move your entire hand left if you want to use all four? What a joke.


Strike all four at once? Yes, that would require moving your hand...

Seriously, I'm not quite sure what you mean or why you say it. Could you clarify?