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Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:51 pm
by yithril
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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
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$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Sorry for the long absence. Just got back from moving. Took awhile to get the internet installed :)

It all hinges on how he answers.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:33 am
by Kirby
Where did you move to?

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:18 am
by Chew Terr
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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
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$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X 6 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 3 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O B . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The above is viable, because I have the ladder at 'a'. I will have to watch the ladder from those bottom stones though, lest I lose them. Not sure it matters a ton though, as I can atari my way up to build a wall if he wants to escape.

Did a lot of reading about direction of play and possible results. Essentially, letting my opponent get strong by connecting is just too generous.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:58 pm
by yithril
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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
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$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Hokays.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:32 am
by Chew Terr
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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X 6 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As discussed. Still feels really harsh. Been trying to play more of this attachy fighty stuff myself lately, to better wrap my head around it.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:24 pm
by yithril
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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
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$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:26 pm
by Chew Terr
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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O 8 . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I hate to give this much up, but I don't think I can afford for R7 to be isolated, and this is basically the alternative.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:15 pm
by yithril
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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So I get a ponnuki here which I was not expecting. I expected him to fight me by playing...

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I thought the fight would go like this.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:46 pm
by Chew Terr
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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . 0 . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, I'm connected, but I'm giving a lot of fairly thick influence up on the cheap. This gives me an option of a slide down the right, but that's for later. First, we'll have to see how my opponent uses sente.

Fair warning, I'm going to be gone until the 10th because of a trip that includes Go Congress. Sorry for the delay!

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:32 am
by yithril
So Observers, what do you guys think so far? While we're on hiatus.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:49 am
by Kirby
yithril wrote:So Observers, what do you guys think so far? While we're on hiatus.


I think that Black is ahead on territory at the moment. White, perhaps, has the potential to spice things up. White's central influence may help him with this.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:07 pm
by judicata
For some reason, Chew's diagram isn't showing up for me. Should it look like the below?

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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . 0 . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:11 am
by ez4u
judicata wrote:For some reason, Chew's diagram isn't showing up for me. Should it look like the below?

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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . 0 . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Chew has experienced the dread Copy and Paste Bug! And, yes, you have it right.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:33 am
by Chew Terr
Finally back from Congress and the following family visit. Thank you for your patience! I agree that I'm a bit ahead on territory, but I'm losing the handicap advantage faster than I'd like. Also I've been having some trouble lately with giving my opponents tons of central territory on accident, so I've got to keep an eye on that.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:56 pm
by yithril
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Yay, overconcentration time!