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Re: Fantasy go league: rules and registration!

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:21 pm
by lovely
Baek Hongsuk has been one of the top 20 players in Korea for some time now. I've been following him ever since he won the New Stars Best Ten title in 2006 and he's been one of my favorite players to watch. He has a sort of sharp style and his fighting ability is some of the best.

He's come close to winning some titles, most recently finishing runner-up in the Asian TV Cup against Kong Jie. Younggil commented that game here.

This also isn't the first time Hongsuk has met Park in a finals: they faced off in the now discontinued Kisung (Kisei) in 2008.

I hope he wins, because he deserves to have a title. Plus, it would help my team ;-)

Although it will be tough. Park has been strong since the World Meijin title earlier this year.

Re: Fantasy go league: rules and registration!

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:21 pm
by hyperpape
Everyone else is getting a pass on the Kuksu final, might as well give Daniel the same. The competitors were announced back in October, so we all (could have) known them ahead of time.

Re: Fantasy go league: rules and registration!

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:24 pm
by emeraldemon
hyperpape wrote:Everyone else is getting a pass on the Kuksu final, might as well give Daniel the same. The competitors were announced back in October, so we all (could have) known them ahead of time.


Good point. Only the Myeongin finals should be counted out. Of course, It should be too late to claim the win Cho Hanseung already played!

Re: Fantasy go league: rules and registration!

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:19 pm
by hyperpape
Is the Oza going to count? There's a game tomorrow.

And thanks for arranging this, emeraldemon. It seems like it ought to be easy, but we keep complicating it.

Re: Fantasy go league: rules and registration!

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:36 pm
by daal
Game discussion:

Take a look at white 38 in the game between Park Yeonghun and Lee Taehyun posted by Emeraldemon here.
What in the world was the idea behind that?
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm30
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$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . 7 . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . 9 X . . . |
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Re: Fantasy go league: rules and registration!

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:43 am
by ez4u
daal wrote:Game discussion:

Take a look at white 38 in the game between Park Yeonghun and Lee Taehyun posted by Emeraldemon here.
What in the world was the idea behind that?...


Generally when :b2: is played in response to :w1:, the exchange of :w3: for :b4: before jumping to :w5: is one of the basic continuations. Black is not going to respond with 4 at "a" as that means White has closed off the slide at the bottom. When Black descends at :b4:, the gap at "a" helps White. The peep at :b6: is part of the flow. Black wants White to connect at "b" in which case Black will jump to "c" and attack White's stones while erasing the potential to the left. Naturally White resists at :w7:. Usual is :b8:, threatening to cut. White would typically exchange :w9: for :b10:. This combined with :w3: protects the gap at "b" in sente. Two weeks ago Sakai Hideyuki played along these lines against Kono Rin in the NHK Cup on Japanese TV. Black's jump to "c" in the game posted above is unusual as far as I know. It allows (invites?) White to play in at 8, which protects "b" without allowing Black to strengthen the right side.
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 5 . 9 0 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . c 8 6 b . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . 1 . a . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Re: Fantasy go league: rules and registration!

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:09 am
by Marcus
Cool, Baek Hongsuk has just earned me as many points as he cost me. :)

I'm really enjoying this league already, emeraldemon. Thanks for organizing!

Re: Fantasy go league: rules and registration!

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:26 am
by emeraldemon
I've decided to add in both the Oza and Tengen finals, at 2 points/ win. Cho U won his Oza match against Hane Naoki, and Takao Shinji beat Iyama Yuta in the Kisei challenge match:





points earned by pro:
Park Yeonghun : 3
Baek Hongsuk : 3
Takao Shinji : 2
Cho U : 2
Cho Hanseung : 2

player standings:
prokofiev : 9
Laman : 9
jordus : 8
Araban : 7
topazg : 5
marcus : 5
lovely : 5
hyperpape : 4
Stevenson : 4
lindentree : 3
hailthorn011 : 3
daal : 3
Barrauss : 2
daniel_the_smith : 0

Re: Fantasy go league: rules and registration!

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:55 am
by emeraldemon
Choi Cheolhan won game 4, but Cho Hanseung won game 5 and took the 55th Kuksu title!

There's a nice article on gogameguru, so I will just link to that: http://gogameguru.com/cho-hanseung-wins ... ksu-korea/

Updates: prokofiev, Laman, & Araban are tied for the lead with 11 points each.

points earned by pro:
Cho Hanseung : 4
Park Yeonghun : 3
Baek Hongsuk : 3
Takao Shinji : 2
Choi Cheolhan : 2
Cho U : 2

player standings:
prokofiev : 11
Laman : 11
Araban : 11
jordus : 8
hyperpape : 8
marcus : 7
Stevenson : 6
topazg : 5
lovely : 5
lindentree : 5
hailthorn011 : 3
daal : 3
Barrauss : 2
daniel_the_smith : 0

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:07 am
by daniel_the_smith
:evil:

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:59 am
by emeraldemon
daniel_the_smith wrote::evil:


you should pick more pros :)

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:04 am
by daniel_the_smith
emeraldemon wrote:
daniel_the_smith wrote::evil:


you should pick more pros :)


http://pbfcomics.com/222/

:)

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:44 pm
by emeraldemon
Iyama Yuta is now 3-0 vs. Yuki Satoshi in the Tengen match:



This makes Iyama Yuta both Tengen and and Judan, which is perhaps some consolation for losing the Meijin to Yamashita.

You can take heart daniel, you now have points on the board.

points earned by pro:
Cho Hanseung : 4
Park Yeonghun : 3
Baek Hongsuk : 3
Takao Shinji : 2
Iyama Yuta : 2
Choi Cheolhan : 2
Cho U : 2

player standings:
Araban : 13
prokofiev : 11
Laman : 11
hyperpape : 10
jordus : 8
Stevenson : 8
topazg : 7
marcus : 7
lovely : 7
lindentree : 5
hailthorn011 : 5
daal : 5
Barrauss : 4
daniel_the_smith : 2

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:53 pm
by emeraldemon
On the theory side, I like Yuki Satoshi's approach & enclosure sequence on the top:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Tengen fuseki
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 5 . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . |
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$$ | . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . 4 . . . . . , . . . . . 3 . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It reminds me a bit of the mini-chinese idea. It's not that new, my GoGod has Miyazawa Goro playing it in the Oteai in 1992, But it's new to me, I may try it in some of my games.

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:00 am
by Laman
and what about the Myeongin finals? Park Yeonghun won the first game