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Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:11 pm
by Dazz
my opponent played weird moves
That is one of the things I love about go is the freedom that you have to play 'weird' moves. I need to try and play 'weird' moves and be more creative in my games.
Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:16 pm
by speedchase
I went through Lee Changho Tsumego 1 again and only got 2 wrong.
Both were to kill problems where I thought the defender had a shortage of liberties but actually didn't. I am moving on to Lee Changho Tsumego 2 (I don't have the tesuji's yet. I should get them and my other books tomorrow). I also played another game again today, and I finally got a win. it was a crazy fighting game with a giant running fight covering half the board. I am positioning it from pure awesome factor. I didn't play great, but I am feeling better about my focus, and I also managed to play joseki for a a couple moves despite having no idea what joseki was (my opponent eventually deviated from being something in kogos).
Here is the game:
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/5/shige-speedchase.sgf
Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:18 pm
by Shaddy
In this game, white's b6 group is not dead at the end.
Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:37 pm
by RBerenguel
Shaddy, care to elaborate? I know it's not a nakade, so.. I think also black can get something of it, but don't know how.
Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:50 pm
by Marcus
It's a nice bit of reading practice, actually. If Shaddy does elaborate, I think he should put it in HIDE tags so people can give it a look for themselves, if they wish.
Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:10 pm
by RBerenguel
White's B6! I was looking at black's group as if it was cut off by white. Let's check white then!
Edit: Got it, I assume.
Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:06 pm
by speedchase
that seems so obvious now...
Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:21 pm
by speedchase
Yesterday i did not have much time for go, but I did manage to get a game in. I won, and Leyleth helped me review after.
Today I took a break from LCH tsumego and Tesuji and I started working through [sl=WeiqiLifeAndDeath1000Problems]Weiqi Life and Death 1000 Problems[/sl]. I am up to problem 75. I have decided I am going to go through this book "mastering" one chapter at a time (the smaller chapters will be grouped together.)
I think this way I will have a clearer idea of my progress as I am moving through the book, and it will also help me work through the harder parts of the book if I have already mastered the easier.
Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:40 pm
by speedchase
I was pretty busy today but I still managed to get in a solid 30 - 45 min of tsumego. The problems are getting harder, and I am slowing down. I only got up to 82 today. I am enjoying this more, especially because when I make a mistake I have gotten into the habit of turning the problem around (ex. when the problem is black to live I add my incorrect move and complete the problem as white to kill). I feel this is effective because I am practicing reading something that is in my blind spot. I have also started noticing that sometimes I can't see the answer to a problem until suddenly something jumps out at me, and then I read for a bit to make sure it works. It's a little bit weird but I am enjoying studying more now so it must be good. I am pretty tired so I am going to bed early tonight.
Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:27 pm
by Leyleth
speedchase wrote:I was pretty busy today but I still managed to get in a solid 30 - 45 min of tsumego. The problems are getting harder, and I am slowing down. I only got up to 82 today. I am enjoying this more, especially because when I make a mistake I have gotten into the habit of turning the problem around (ex. when the problem is black to live I add my incorrect move and complete the problem as white to kill). I feel this is effective because I am practicing reading something that is in my blind spot. I have also started noticing that sometimes I can't see the answer to a problem until suddenly something jumps out at me, and then I read for a bit to make sure it works. It's a little bit weird but I am enjoying studying more now so it must be good. I am pretty tired so I am going to bed early tonight.
Some times, answers come more easily this way. Being a Dsaun fan, here's one of his stories. He went to Korea where there was a big tournament. Dsaun was in a room, watching the game on a TV. There was some monitors so that amateurs could see these games. All you could see was the board and the hands. A profesional was amongst them and he found that everything was weird. He had trouble finding the moves, until somebody had a flash. They turned the TV 90 degrees (literally). Then, the pro could understand all the game.
This is why I think go's mostly a game of perspective. When you have trouble in a certain situation, try to look at it from a different point of view. Often, everything becomes clearer!
Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:41 pm
by speedchase
I came across a problem that I am not sure about:
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This was a black to live problem (actually a little bit in, but me and the book agreed up to this point). I said a and the book said b. is a wrong or is b just better because of threats and aji and stuff.
Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:05 pm
by Shaddy
speedchase wrote:I came across a problem that I am not sure about:
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This was a black to live problem (actually a little bit in, but me and the book agreed up to this point). I said a and the book said b. is a wrong or is b just better because of threats and aji and stuff.
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White now has infinitely many ko threats to kill the corner.
edit: Wait, how does b live? I'm not seeing it.
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a, b miai.
Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:39 pm
by Magicwand
i am thinking below is only way black can live. i might be wrong...because i only read 10 second but probably not.
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Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:55 pm
by speedchase
sorry my original post had the incorrect answer from the book
The sequence given by the book is the following
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Re: My study Journal of awesomeness and excitement
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:07 pm
by Shaddy
Ignore my last post, I'm insane. That looks right, I don't know how I missed it.