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164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

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Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:48 pm
by Wanderling
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[go]$$Wcm26
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Only move. Audience, who do you favor in this fight?

Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:51 pm
by Twitchy Go
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[go]$$Wcm26
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 4 X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

only move i think

Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:22 pm
by Wanderling
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[go]$$Wcm26
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O 5 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It's about to get interesting. This may very well be do-or-die for me. The game's easier as black IMO.

Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:25 pm
by Twitchy Go
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[go]$$Wcm26
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O 5 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

cutting back so its not broken shape.

Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:49 pm
by Wanderling
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[go]$$Wcm26
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Gotta stay connected! How's my shape, observers?

Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:01 pm
by Twitchy Go
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[go]$$Wcm26
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 8 X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If I let all of W groups connect it would be an unmitigated disaster. As it is I will either get sente to run if he protects the cut, or have a cut to exploit later. I might also be able to squeeze something out of the small knight on the bottom of my wall.

To wanderling when the game is over and your looking over comments. You got me good here :bow:
But fighting games are fun lets see how it develops from here.

His group is behind enemy lines but has shape, I'm poking out, but have no shape. He seems better off..I might need to live on the bottom to win. But let's see if sealing him in is possible first.

Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:36 pm
by Wanderling
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[go]$$Wcm26
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X X 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Fixes my aji most directly. Now the attention is on his line of five...I wonder what he has in mind?

Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:25 am
by Wanderling
A critical move for Twitchy?

Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:23 pm
by Twitchy Go
I appear to have been twiddling my thumbs for a week thinking it was Wanderlings move. My apologies for delaying the game.
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[go]$$Bcm35
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Need to get out. My corners fine and B5 looks tempting as a follow up, that small knights next to my wall is harassable. I can still invade the bottom, expand the right, take either corner, or pressure his group farther. Although that last one might not be so smart. Once he absolutely has two eyes he can attack like crazy/ But later, urgently getting out for now.

Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:17 pm
by Wanderling
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[go]$$Bcm35
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I believe I can kill given another move, making this sente.

Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:24 pm
by Twitchy Go
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[go]$$Bcm35
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm35
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a X O 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X b O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | d . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | c 3 X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 4 O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |

$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think someone is trying to kill me. I am fine with this though. Taking away my ability to make an eye in gote is just inducing 37. With 37 I'm defending in sente, and removing endgame for him. Well I hope its sente. If he disagrees with me and keeps playing locally after I tenuki with 39 I'm going to panic. I've examined this position and his best chances at living appear to be the forcing moves a-d. I don't think any of them work. But I could very well be misreading. If I connect 39 at b, then I would absolutely be alive. but that is gote and I should trust my reading.

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[go]$$Bcm1 my planned tenuki is a 2-5 approach
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$$ | . X X X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 2 O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm1 more likely result
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$$ | . X X X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 5 4 O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:56 pm
by Wanderling
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[go]$$Bcm35
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 4 O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:04 pm
by Twitchy Go
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[go]$$Bcm35
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 4 O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

as planned.

Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:57 pm
by Wanderling
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[go]$$Bcm35
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 4 O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Defend my territory. I know he wants to connect to his wall; but how?

Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:05 pm
by Twitchy Go
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probe. Does he want the corner bad enough to give me forcing moves for life on the side/ attacking his small knights. And his corner is still high so I have a nice way to start a bottom invasion. Well I hope left side is more important and play here might effect that aji.
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