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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:28 pm
by Kirby
$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:30 pm
by Magicwand
$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:32 pm
by Chew Terr
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:43 pm
by Dusk Eagle
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:53 pm
by Magicwand
Dusk Eagle wrote: Magicwand:
if he atari and beg for life i am perfectly satisfied.
$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0if he answers atari then i will connect.
then i believe that atari is a plus for me because it will make black heavier and give him less option.
does that make sense??
$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:46 pm
by Kirby
Hi, Chew Terr. First of all, I didn't read out all of the variations, but just enough to feel comfortable with being able to live. I have a good degree of confidence, that is.
Since there are a lot of variations, I'll only go over ones that correspond to the response Magicwand made.
Here are some possibilities (though, perhaps not optimal):
$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0The area around "a" is still open, since he didn't defend before.
$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0I haven't read all of this one out, but it seems easy to make life in the diagram above.
Ideally, I want to play with the following first move, but I am afraid of black's response shown below:
$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0I feel like there might be a way to live, but it is not totally clear to me.
By playing the move I'm going to, I can either live easily, or have a reduction into his territory that is either sente, or lets me dive deeper in.
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:46 pm
by Kirby
$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:51 pm
by Magicwand
$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=1
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:58 pm
by Kirby
$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=1
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:59 pm
by Magicwand
$$Bc Prisoners: B=0, W=1
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:05 pm
by Chew Terr
Thanks, Kirby. Nice to see your plans. Even if it doesn't end up being exactly what happens, getting inside a stronger player's head really does help.
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:42 pm
by daniel_the_smith
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:19 am
by Jonas
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:51 am
by gaius
To Bill Spight:
Bill Spight wrote: (...) I have also marked other points that are
diagonally "connected" to
and the marked Black stones. Sonoda Yuichi points out that stones with that kind of relation are positioned to make eyes (like a diamond shape). And making eyes is a major concern for Black. I do not really have any experience with focusing on that kind of relationship, but
certainly exploits it.
Wow. Such a "diagonally connected" relationship between stones is something I never considered. My brain has just been enriched with a new way to think about sabaki.
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 3
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 5:11 am
by Magicwand
Jonas wrote: to magicwand:
this stage of the game it is very hard to find a place to play.
i roughly counted black 35 white 25. i am still behind but i have some influence and black has one weak stone in the middle...so i am thinking we are about even.
i am planning to probe at 1. if he tenuki and play 2 i play 3.
this will create nice structured moyo for white.
$$Wc Prisoners: B=0, W=1
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc Prisoners: B=0, W=1or this.
$$Wc Prisoners: B=0, W=1
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc Prisoners: B=0, W=1or this
$$Wc Prisoners: B=0, W=1
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc Prisoners: B=0, W=1overall knight move approach to lower left look like a key point in this game.
it will put indirect pressure on one stone in the middle. i can not attack 1 lonely stone because it is so light. i will have to build some more influences and wait till right timing to attack.
and the marked Black stones. Sonoda Yuichi points out that stones with that kind of relation are positioned to make eyes (like a diamond shape). And making eyes is a major concern for Black. I do not really have any experience with focusing on that kind of relationship, but 