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Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:19 am
by topazg
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Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:47 am
by skydyr
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Hmm... that also went according to plan. This always leaves me wondering if my opponent is going along because my plan is not very good. I didn't mention it before, but the ladder from white cutting below
3
just misses the white stone on J4, so I may have some decisions to make later. I don't think that
is terribly important, though, so I could just sacrifice it for forcing moves to strengthen the black group.
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners: noneI'm debating a bit between the two marked points. I would like to take the top right first, as it is the last big move of the opening. After that, the middle game should start in earnest. As I discussed earlier, it is if not sente, at least threatening.
On the other hand, if black comes out, white doesn't have time to take the big point until the lower left is somewhat settled.
Enh... let's go with the
tedomari I think white might play one of these locally, or tenuki:
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Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:14 am
by topazg
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Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:37 am
by skydyr
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This is a classic probe of the shimari to see if black wants to make corner territory or take the outside. There are 4 or so local options:
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BA and D generally lead to white sacrificing the probe to make shape with forcing moves. C claims the outside while giving white the option of living inside with a
tripod group . B claims the corner and reduces aji so that white can't force as easily.
I mentioned earlier that I thought black 35 removed some of the aji from the probe, so I'm going to play the solid option B. I think white will have a hard time getting much out of that stone due to the additional close support, and if white does make it live, I will welcome the thickness to make a big top right moyo.
Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:56 am
by topazg
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Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:12 am
by skydyr
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Good! White is spending moves removing some of his aji, which means I have sente again. These are all points I would like to get in the near future, though I doubt I can get them all:
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc Prisoners: noneHere's my current plan:
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Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:18 am
by topazg
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Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:57 am
by skydyr
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This was my first feeling, but it starts a giant fight and weakens black's bottom right group. I think black is ahead on the board right now, so complications are not what is needed.
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc Prisoners: noneThis isn't independantly alive:
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners: noneThis seems to be the best that I can get, but at least it's sente.
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Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:13 pm
by topazg
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Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:26 pm
by skydyr
I just noticed my diagram had an error, so here's a correction:
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Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:27 pm
by topazg
No
Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:32 pm
by skydyr
Didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure.
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Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:45 pm
by topazg
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Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:57 pm
by skydyr
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Re: #186 - topazg vs. skydyr
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:04 pm
by topazg
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I think White's doing fairly well for points now. We both want to get back to the bottom - I'm particularly aiming at the following:
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3 just misses the white stone on J4, so I may have some decisions to make later. I don't think that 