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Posted: **Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:50 am**

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More comments and reply to The Intrepid at the evening.

Chose this way in the end - If I was sure Ed would answer B to my A, that would be ok, but I'm afraid he would play C instead. Also, If I end up enclosing, a stone at A might seem a bit misplaced.

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Posted: **Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:10 am**

For beginners. In Ishida's Dictionary of Basic Joseki, volume 1, page 239, Diagram 5,
there is a :w9:

which I didn't understand, until now. Tim's :w36:

explains it.

Posted: **Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:12 am**

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Posted: **Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:43 am**

Happy holidays Ed!

About the position: I really suck at counting and this kind of positional judgement, not much experience, but let's try, need to learn it someday

I have ~20 at bottom and 15ish at side and top together. Add komi, that makes 40+

Black has 15ish in the left corners together.So Black needs about 25+ from top+right, plus equal to whatever I manage to make on there.

In my opinion this seems playable for both, depends on how well I handle right. Migt be totally wrong though. I prefer white, as in my opinion I have more active options at the moment.

Regarding next moves: I really want to play A or cut at B, but cut is gote, and I'm a bit afraid A might be too. B could perhaps then just reduce from outside while expanding his right side moyo.

IMHO black still doesn't have a single good move which locks down right side. Would love to manage an invasion or reduction that wouldn't give whole top right corner to Black. Can I make a move at top before moving in on side to add some aji? Need to think this over .

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Posted: **Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:11 am**

Tim, Happy holidays.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:00 am**

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Let's see what Ed does here. If I'm correct, the cut at A should hinder black's operations at the bottom sufficiently for the moment. Aiming to reduce lightly with 2, then something like B or C depending on what happened with this reduction.

If I just pluck a stone in the middle of right side, I will get pincered and no good will come out of that. Selected this move mainly based on some variations of B, where I might get a wall running up from B, this could fit nice ly to that.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bm37 $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b c . . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X a X . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . 1 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O X O O . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:24 am**

Posted: **Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:22 am**

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Posted: **Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:23 am**

Posted: **Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:16 am**

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Posted: **Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:26 am**

Posted: **Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:14 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bm41 $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . X . . . . . 1 . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Posted: **Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:45 pm**

Quick initial thoughts:

Primary objective: the ogeima jump must NOT be cut. I want a wall there, supporting my lone stone on right and aiming at black corner. For this reason, considering A and B most, C and D less. E, followed by A,D,B seems to be bad.

If I manage to create a heavy group for black, the cut at G should shine. A running fight is welcome, it should help me to handle the right side, my previous move on left strenghtened that side for such a fight.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bm41 $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X g X . . . . . 1 . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . . . . . d e a b . . . X . . | $$ | . . O X O O . . . O X c . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:44 am**

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Posted: **Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:52 am**

I prefer this to the one below it. Next considerations a,b

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2,3 exchange is not so cool for me

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