If there is a comment from Magicwand on this game, probably either me or Chew Terr made a mistake... I was the last person to play, though, so that makes me concerned...
[go]$$Bcm1 However, this way seems to live fine $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X 1 . , X X 2 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . X W X X O O O . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O O O O O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X B . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
When it comes down to it though, even if I was certain I could kill the top, I'm not sure it would be worth the danger of tenuki-ing from the bottom left. I've been wanting to either cut his connection or jump out for a while now. He protected his connection, so I'll jump. His group still isn't alive on its own, so he can't attach as harshly as he might like.
Actually, I can't jump. Well, I could, but black would kill my two stones with the tesuji at E11. The question, then, is whether it's worth saving those stones. It represents one eye for Kirby, which would essentially stabilize his group. On the other hand, if I defend it, he can jump downwards, pressuring my group and gaining more thickness and security for himself. So I think I cannot afford to defend those stones now, and must jump.
$$Bcm1 A failed attempt to connect in sente $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X . . . X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X O O O . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O O O O O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . 4 . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X 2 X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X 3 W O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 8 O 5 O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 9 7 O 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . 1 . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
A few thoughts. First, I don't think the tesuji at T11 works after all, if I play F12 in response instead of atari. Second, I realized that if I wanted to attack the top, the correct point was H18, though now I believe it's too late. These two things are what I get for not taking long enough.
Okay, here is my plan now. I'm going to peep at J14 to increase my thickness in sente. Then I'm considering jumping my center group again or approaching the top right from below. The latter seems huge and in sente, I just want to be careful with my center group.
Re: 40. Chew Terr (6k) vs. Kirby (1d)
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:30 am
by Kirby
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X . . . X X X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X O O O . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O O O O O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X X B O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . O . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm1 T...11? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X . . . X X X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X O O O . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O O O O O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X X . W . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a | $$ | . . . , . . O . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Magicwand:
I think comments make Kirby nervous.
Maybe we should post them less...
Nah. Post more!
Re: 40. Chew Terr (6k) vs. Kirby (1d)
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:53 am
by k43r
post to make kirby even more uncomfortable ^^
Re: 40. Chew Terr (6k) vs. Kirby (1d)
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:00 am
by Chew Terr
Violence:
Yeah, I'm bad at words. Jokes about T11 being the secret awesome winning move aside, I meant the trick at E11, which is very close to one that's in the book Tesuji. This is what I was concerned of:
$$Bcm1 In my head, I was seeing 2 as black, and thought it was connect-and-die. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X . . . X X X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X O O O . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O O O O O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X X . W . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . 3 O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . a | $$ | . . . , . . O . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm1 In my head, I was seeing 2 as black, and thought it was connect-and-die. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X . . . X X X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X O O O . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O O O O O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X X . W . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . 3 O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . a | $$ | . . . , . . O . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Wow, I'm an idiot sometimes =D
Okay, I think I should probably take a bit of a break from this, so my reading can have a rest. I don't want to let myself get intimidated into seeing false threats.
Going to have to contemplate to see the right direction of play here. Finally, I get to attack a bit.
Re: 40. Chew Terr (6k) vs. Kirby (1d)
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:52 pm
by Chew Terr
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X . . . X X X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X O O O . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O O O O O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . O . W , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X . . . X X X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . X X O O O . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O O O O O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X X X X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . O . W , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Okay, I kept going back and forth between this and a big extension/approach up the right side. The two work together, because they cut out places black can run. This move strengthens my group and weakens black's, while the extension reduces some options but starts to make shapes that can make points. However, if I don't jump here, I think black has too many ways to lean on my group. I think I get this jump in sente because he has to respond, then I can take my extension and start (hopefully) cashing in on this attack. The extension will also give me more of a target of somewhere to run.
Sorry for the delay. Didn't want to rush into any bad decisions! This game is hard enough without huge mistakes =D
