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Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:47 pm
by k43r
entropi wrote:
Magicwand wrote: $$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Can a stronger player discuss shortly how W would answer Be17 after that move?
Sorry, if it is obvious, but I cannot see the continuation...
Thanks in advance
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0There is no hidden tesuji here
B can force some moves, but in the end he must come back to play honte Bc18. If in-game you see any gain in terms of aji from forcing these exchanges than you can do them now, but if not than there is no point in doing so
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:16 pm
by Kirby
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Both defending and attacking here are quite big. If white plays here, I almost have to respond. Furthermore, by playing here, I aid in the opportunity of invading the bottom later.
He might play like this either now or later, but it doesn't really do that much for him:
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:10 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:27 pm
by Kirby
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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I must keep the marked stones weak:
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0If I defend the bottom left, he'll play here:
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Next, he will play here:
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Corner will be OK. I'll attack top right or bottom after it's safe.
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:08 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:29 pm
by FlameBlade
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:48 pm
by Kirby
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
I don't know if it's the best choice for him. It makes it easier for me to attack the bottom or the top. I think that jumping out was more severe for him:
$$Wcm1
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Anyway, I'll answer the peep, and continue with the plan.
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:51 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:17 pm
by Kirby
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
This will make it easier for me to attack the bottom. I predict this:
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:20 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:24 pm
by Kirby
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Let me know if you disagree.
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:26 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:37 pm
by Kirby
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:38 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:42 pm
by Kirby
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
B can force some moves, but in the end he must come back to play honte Bc18. If in-game you see any gain in terms of aji from forcing these exchanges than you can do them now, but if not than there is no point in doing so