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Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

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Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 1:46 pm
by hailthorn011
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Alright then.

Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:45 pm
by Unusedname
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I think actually black should have just responded to the shoulder hit.
But idk.

I tossed in a stone to reduce the left side but ended up reducing the bottom side. Funny how that happens.
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maybe later on I can assault the corner.

Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:09 pm
by hailthorn011
I believe I will take some time with this move. Just so you know Unusedname.

Observers:
To everyone else, I feel like I NEED to take my time with this move. It's probably not a critical point, but I want to avoid flubbering away another game due to playing without thinking properly. And given that this is a Malk game, I can take more time than usual.

I will post my move tomorrow.

Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:25 pm
by The Intrepid
I think White should have made a simple jump instead of the knight's move.
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Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:42 pm
by Unusedname
No rush. I suppose I'll take the time to count and do other mysterious low dan rituals.

Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:37 am
by skydyr
Unusedname wrote:No rush. I suppose I'll take the time to count and do other mysterious low dan rituals.
If one isn't available, you can substitute a chicken from the supermarket for a live one, so long as it still has the giblets.

Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:41 pm
by Unusedname
skydyr wrote:
Unusedname wrote:No rush. I suppose I'll take the time to count and do other mysterious low dan rituals.
If one isn't available, you can substitute a chicken from the supermarket for a live one, so long as it still has the giblets.
Ah I knew I forgot something.

Well if my assessment is off then we know why.
so I give 40 points to black for his left side and 10 points in the UR corner.

I get about 20 points in my UL corner and 10 points from my 3-3 stone.

Um I wasn't sure how to classify the upper middle group.
I think it can find a way to live. But if it dies it's worth 40 points.
I think I'm definitely going to find time to go back and make sure it won't find life on the side.

Um... I suppose that means i'm behind. Unless I can kill the upper black group in which case i'm far ahead.

I think i've successfully ruined the bottom side for black just by being given a free move. Also if Black tries to run with this group I might be able to get more points along the right side.

Black can find more points extending along the right side as can I. So I think that's going to be a really big point.

Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:42 am
by hailthorn011
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After careful consideration, I no longer care about the bottom. Worst case scenario, :white: plays K4, but I'm not even worried about that. I decided I needed to make a move at the top. And perhaps I can split F13 off from the rest of the :white: stones. Maybe.

Either way, I feel quite comfortable with this game. After this, I plan to aim for the right side. If I get that, I feel it will be a decently comfortable walk to the finish so long as I refrain from my trademark silly moves.

Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 9:16 am
by Unusedname
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he'll fix the cut then i decide between
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Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 9:56 am
by hailthorn011
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
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$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . X . . |
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Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:55 pm
by Unusedname
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I don't like responding to him here.
I want to just turn on the bottom and gain a whole lot of points. and throw parties like gatsby.
But I'm afraid.

Idk. I don't think his group is anymore alive now then it was before so it still looks like he's too busy with things to do.

Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:29 pm
by hailthorn011
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
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$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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I personally feel my top group is okay for the time being. I do worry about it somewhat, but I feel I can make moves to make life if necessary. Let's keep this party rolling!

Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:32 pm
by Unusedname
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[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
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$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
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SIGH
that doesn't feel very good...
I don't like his move again.
It is probably best i settle my stones first, but my stones are stronger then his so I think i'm fine with both of us running.

Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 4:53 pm
by hailthorn011
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
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$$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , X . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:00 pm
by Unusedname
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$c Black: 0 White: 0
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$$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , X . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . W . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
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close fist before hitting

I want to cut but I suppose I'll need to do that later.

I have a feeling he'll be able to connect very easily.... which is upsetting.
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