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Re: #213 Dusk Eagle vs Magicwand

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:28 am
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm40
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O . O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . X 1 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 3 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

This is a probe. He has two ways to respond.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . a O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O O 6 . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O . O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X O 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . X O 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O 2 7 |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X 3 |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X O . 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

If he ataris at :w1: above, I can get the hane at :b6: in sente, Later, if he gets a move around 'a', :b6: lets me play 'b' to connect.

(Alternate variation:

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O 4 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X X X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O O 3 . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O . O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X O 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O , O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Then :b2: and :b4: remove most of his options for targeting this group of stones.)

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O . O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O 1 . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 O X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X O 7 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . 2 O 9 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . 0 . |
$$ | 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Whereas if he connects with :w1:, then :b2: has more force behind it. I may not play :b2: right away, but when I do, if he responds elsewhere, I can take over the corner. And if he responds locally, it either makes :b2: sente or gives my group even better shape. (There's also the bad aji of me playing :b2: at :b4:.)

In the middle, his last move has left me a couple of good forcing moves against his middle group to make a couple of my groups stronger:

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[go]$$Bcm40
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O 4 3 X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . B 1 2 . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , B O 6 O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . B O . 5 . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O , . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

On the plus side of this sequence, I get the useful :b3: and :b5: stones. However, I lose a useful liberty on my :bc: stones, so it's not a sequence I want to play automatically without first considering the benefits and drawbacks carefully. That's one of the reasons I'm playing this probe on the right first - to see how he responds before I decide whether I should play the forcing sequence above now or not, and what I should do afterward.

Re: #213 Dusk Eagle vs Magicwand

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:06 am
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm40
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , X O . O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . X 1 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 3 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X O . 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
nice timed probe.... bitter mouth :cry:

Re: #213 Dusk Eagle vs Magicwand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:46 pm
by lesenv
will this game go on? i can't wait!
(bump?)

Re: #213 Dusk Eagle vs Magicwand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:27 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
lesenv wrote:will this game go on? i can't wait!
(bump?)


I think that MW has gone fishing.

Re: #213 Dusk Eagle vs Magicwand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:53 pm
by The Intrepid
Joaz Banbeck wrote:I think that MW has gone fishing.
He might as well, given that it's not his move.