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by EdLee » Fri May 10, 2013 11:20 pm
Phoenix,
Phoenix wrote: I've been screaming in my head "Play 'a ', play 'a '! Game over!"
At first, that's what I thought, too. But...
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$B $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . 2 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O 1 O . . 4 . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |[/go]Then I realized, oh, at these levels, anything can still happen, so I changed
the first impression of "game over" to "If
, the fight is difficult for White" in Post 32.
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by EdLee » Fri May 10, 2013 11:54 pm
bgrieco, quietimes,
Some hidden posts could be pretty good, some are OK, while a few may be completely wrong.
bgrieco wrote: But I never realized, until now, what exactly is to be "malkovitched".
You're correct -- personal experience is a bit different, isn't it.
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by quietimes » Sat May 11, 2013 6:41 am
Busy times. Sorry for my delay, life caught up to me for a bit. I choose to not open the posts. I am putting my thoughts on strategy at the time in the hide sections so losing "strategery" when I review are at less risk. I will become influenced by whatever I read, were we to look early. I am greatly appreciative of all the comments and to not see them is of little bother. In my paranoid critical mind most of them are "what was he thinking?! why play there?!". Not seeing these makes for a better game from me. Absolutely enjoying the experience and would like to stay the course. WIll have a move here shortly.
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by quietimes » Sat May 11, 2013 2:30 pm
$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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by bgrieco » Sat May 11, 2013 6:25 pm
$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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by quietimes » Sun May 12, 2013 7:01 pm
$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . 5 , . . X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . 5 , . . X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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by bgrieco » Sun May 12, 2013 7:06 pm
$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . 5 , . 6 X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . 5 , . 6 X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]I'm going on a business trip. Will be back on thursday.
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by quietimes » Mon May 13, 2013 7:28 pm
$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 7 . . . . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . 5 , . 6 X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 7 . . . . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . 5 , . 6 X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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by quietimes » Mon May 13, 2013 7:28 pm
Safe travels
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by quietimes » Tue May 14, 2013 4:52 pm
Aside from my opponent all comments have dried up.
Love the pic of the dog and skunk however.
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by skydyr » Tue May 14, 2013 6:21 pm
If there's anything you want commented on, you can always ask in your hide tags when you move or explain your thinking.
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by quietimes » Wed May 15, 2013 12:11 pm
Never even thought. Was in a one way st kind of viewpoint. TX for the tip.
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by kex » Wed May 15, 2013 12:15 pm
quietimes wrote: So no the response I would have thought. Those stones are dead already, to me anyways. Advance toward the NW corner with a 3 row stone to provoke a gote "like response". My goal is to provoke that response then skip to the D line around 13 and stir up something. Break up the board and hit tengen. I see he has a lot of influence developing toward the center. A concern however early.
Just a comment, as these were requested. 26 makes white on the right indestructible, as it prevents the cut at "a" (as seen from the previous comments
This makes 25 and 27 weak, especially after a white response at "b" or around. making another weak group at D13 for an attack target might fire back. Besides, "c" looks delicious to me.
$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . b . 7 . . . . . . O a O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . 5 , . 6 X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . c . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . b . 7 . . . . . . O a O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . 5 , . 6 X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . c . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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by bgrieco » Thu May 16, 2013 2:57 pm
$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 7 . . . . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . 5 , . 6 X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . 8 . . . . . . 4 . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm21 #216 Quietimes (KGS 16k)vs BGrieco (IGS 16k) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 7 . . . . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . 5 , . 6 X X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . 8 . . . . . . 4 . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 2 3 . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]