Kirby's Study Journal

[Kirby]

Report Card for Week of April 13th

* Go Problems During Commute (OK!)
* Pro Game Study (Fail!)

Last week, I continued to do go problems during my commute, however, I failed to memorize three pro games, as I wanted to. I approximately memorized one game, which I posted earlier.

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Well, this week is a new week. I'll have the same goal. I will try again. I went over this pro game. As before, when I noticed I screwed up, I moved back, and started a new variation. I remembered up until move 156.

(;CA[ks_c_5601-1987]SZ[19]AP[MultiGo:4.4.4]MULTIGOGM[1]
;B[qd];W[dp];B[dc];W[pp];B[cn];W[fq];B[bp];W[cq];B[ck];W[od];B[oc];W[nc];B[pc];W[md]
;B[qf];W[ic];B[gc];W[ie];B[nq];W[oq];B[np];W[qn];B[jq];W[ce];B[cd];W[de];B[fd];W[be]
;B[ch];W[bc];B[bb];W[cc];B[cb];W[dd];B[ac];W[bd];B[ec];W[bg];B[jd];W[jc];B[qq];W[nr]
;B[ro];W[rn];B[qo];W[po];B[pn];W[ql];B[mr];W[or];B[rr];W[no];B[lp]
(;W[om];B[sn];W[pq];B[qp])
(;W[lr];B[ms];W[om];B[sn];W[pq];B[qp];W[mo];B[lq];W[ir];B[iq];W[hr];B[ne];W[nd]
;B[rl];W[qm];B[qk];W[sm];B[so];W[mp];B[mq];W[kn];B[in];W[oj];B[pk];W[ok];B[pi];W[bq]
;B[oi];W[pl];B[ni];W[cj];B[bk];W[pd];B[qe];W[nb];B[pa];W[dj];B[bj];W[bi];B[bh];W[ah]
;B[ci];W[ai];B[eh];W[fj];B[gh];W[gn];B[en];W[im];B[jo];W[ko];B[kp];W[jn];B[io];W[hm]
;B[id];W[kd];B[je];W[hp];B[ip];W[qc];B[qb];W[rc];B[rb];W[ke];B[jf]
(;W[el];B[co];W[lj];B[jj];W[hi];B[jh];W[hh])
(;W[lj];B[jj];W[hi];B[jh];W[hh];B[gg];W[hg];B[ge];W[el];B[co];W[jr];B[kr];W[rm]
;B[lk];W[mk];B[kk];W[mj];B[ik];W[hj];B[kc];W[kb];B[lc];W[lb];B[lm];W[of]
(;B[lo];W[ln];B[mn];W[nn];B[jm])
(;B[fm];W[hk];B[lo];W[ln];B[mn];W[nn];B[jm];W[mm];B[km];W[mn];B[kf];W[gm]C[This is the end of what I remember. After this is from the game record.]
;B[rk];W[qr];B[qs];W[pr];B[rs];W[pg];B[qg];W[cp];B[bo];W[ob];B[pb];W[lf];B[fl];W[dl]
;B[eo];W[lg];B[ng];W[bm];B[cm];W[aj];B[ep];W[eq];B[ag];W[af];B[gi];W[gj];B[am];W[an]
;B[bl];W[al];B[ak];W[ag];B[am];W[rq];B[sq];W[al];B[go];W[cl];B[am];W[ji];B[ki];W[al]
;B[le];W[dk];B[ld];W[ho]C[Black resigned.]))))

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Let's hope that this week is a better week than next week for actual go study. I still haven't played another game yet on KGS, because I am afraid. I have never won a game as 2d, and there is a fear that I will lose this game, then start another losing streak.

With this pro game, and the other go problems I'm doing, I hope to overcome that fear by Tuesday, when I usually try to play a game on KGS.

So... Here's to better study, and to overcoming fear by Tuesday! Cheers!

[Kirby]

Back to 1d. I guess I should have expected it, given the pressure I was putting on this. Actually, I drifted back down to 1d on KGS before playing this game, so I didn't get to try a game with 2d rank.

My fear was somewhat realized in this game, as I played pretty poorly. I lost against KGS 1k. I fear that this might be the start of a losing streak. I hope I can stop it soon.

Anyway, here is my game, which I reviewed myself.

(;CA[utf-8]RU[Japanese]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]GM[1]FF[4]C[I played this game against KGS 1k. I was totally outplayed.]
AP[CGoban:3]SZ[19]ST[2]DT[2015-04-21]PC[The KGS Go Server at http\://www.gokgs.com/]
PB[masayuki]BR[1k]PW[Brian]WR[1d]KM[0.5]TM[1800]RE[B+Resign]MULTIGOGM[1]
;B[pd]BL[1787.61];W[dp]WL[1793.66];B[pq]BL[1784.31];W[dd]WL[1788.86];B[fq]BL[1782.9]
;W[qo]WL[1786.26];B[op]BL[1779.58];W[qk]WL[1781.62];B[cn]BL[1771.42];W[eo]WL[1779.46]
;B[cq]BL[1769];W[qf]WL[1776.99];B[nc]BL[1765.43];W[gp]WL[1715.18];B[gq]BL[1706.58]
;W[hp]WL[1655.37];B[br]BL[1699.07];W[hq]WL[1644.33];B[lq]BL[1692.65];W[cl]WL[1631.88]
;B[fc]BL[1676.27];W[df]WL[1619.31];B[db]BL[1671.15]
(;W[cc]WL[1353.69];B[hd]BL[1657.92]
(;W[on]WL[1324.06]C[I played this because he3 is strong at P4. If he is strong, he can attack me severely.]
;B[cj]BL[1644.23]C[His move was painful.]
(;W[nq]WL[1161.13];B[mo]BL[1600.3];W[ir]WL[1142.13];B[qp]BL[1554.56];W[ro]WL[1134.86]
;B[rp]BL[1543.73]
(;W[bp]WL[1125.23];B[cp]BL[1536.73];W[bo]WL[1122.7];B[co]BL[1532.29];W[bn]WL[1120.72]
C[This is bad, because if he just plays normally, it's a good result for black, I think.]
(;B[en]BL[1457.65];W[cm]WL[1109];B[fo]BL[1443.54];W[fp]WL[1104.74];B[bf]BL[1434.92]
;W[bh]WL[1080.98];B[ch]BL[1426.34];W[bg]WL[1076.8];B[cg]BL[1423.46];W[cf]WL[1075.34]
;B[be]BL[1421.14];W[bi]WL[1073.29];B[ci]BL[1418.89];W[bj]WL[1071.76];B[ck]BL[1415.65]
;W[bk]WL[1070.17];B[fi]BL[1414.38];W[cb]WL[1067.69];B[dc]BL[1408.59]
(;W[ed]WL[1043.49];B[cd]BL[1403.4];W[bc]WL[1035.11];B[bd]BL[1400.53];W[ec]WL[1021.76]
;B[eb]BL[1396.6];W[fb]WL[1020.62];B[de]BL[1382.67];W[ea]WL[1009.16];B[ee]BL[1378.56]
(;W[fd]WL[1006.2];B[fe]BL[1376.59];W[gc]WL[1002.97];B[gd]BL[1374.05];W[da]WL[1001.89]
;B[fn]BL[1370.98]C[Black got a great result.]
(;W[dg]WL[941.61]C[I think this is too emotional. Black got a good result, but I still have a chance, I think.

Instead of making a weak group, I think I should build up the right side.]
;B[eh]BL[1346.6];W[ge]WL[924.4];B[in]BL[1295.53];W[ff]WL[916.875];B[gf]BL[1291.74]
;W[ce]WL[913.925];B[he]BL[1285.97];W[ef]WL[907.996];B[ge]BL[1281.43];W[ad]WL[906.584]
;B[fg]BL[1277.22];W[af]WL[903.949];B[jq]BL[1276.26];W[jp]WL[866.849];B[jr]BL[1253.77]
;W[hn]WL[846.711];B[io]BL[1245.69];W[gn]WL[836.388];B[ip]BL[1242.29];W[iq]WL[825.477]
;B[fl]BL[1229.07];W[im]WL[819.94];B[jm]BL[1224.84];W[gl]WL[810.915];B[il]BL[1217.9]
;W[fk]WL[807.365];B[hm]BL[1215.08];W[gm]WL[805.841];B[el]BL[1207.42];W[gj]WL[791.084]
;B[hk]BL[1196.04];W[gk]WL[789.52];B[hh]BL[1191.73];W[er]WL[787.428];B[eq]BL[1187.01]
;W[dq]WL[785.95];B[dr]BL[1185.2];W[ds]WL[773.92];B[cr]BL[1182.89];W[gr]WL[764.418]
;B[fr]BL[1179.74];W[fs]WL[762.231];B[es]BL[1177.68];W[fm]WL[750.38];B[gs]BL[1171.69]
;W[em]WL[748.417];B[rd]BL[1085.48];W[ph]WL[742.408];B[rf]BL[1075.88]C[I'd say black is ahead by about 20 points.]
;W[rg]WL[684.215];B[qe]BL[1071.02];W[sf]WL[681.613];B[re]BL[1067.92];W[pf]WL[680.082]
;B[hb]BL[1060.03]
(;W[lc]WL[677.301]C[Maybe this is too aggressive.

I need to make points more than take away right now.]
;B[ne]BL[1050.96];W[le]WL[670.919];B[ng]BL[1046.74];W[nb]WL[665.987];B[oc]BL[1037.03]
;W[jc]WL[663.81]C[I just made another weak group.

I may live, but it means that I don't get many points on the right.

Weak group on top = no points on right.]
;B[hc]BL[1016.68];W[lg]WL[659.936];B[mb]BL[1011.69];W[li]WL[655.604];B[ni]BL[1006.05]
;W[ij]WL[499.584];B[pl]BL[938.939];W[ql]WL[493.897];B[pj]BL[932.194];W[qj]WL[488.893]
;B[pi]BL[912.944];W[ig]WL[466.561]C[I decided that my only chance was to kill him.]
;B[ih]BL[878.117];W[gi]WL[442.618];B[jg]BL[865.614];W[if]WL[439.621];B[ji]BL[854.827]
;W[gh]WL[425.632];B[gg]BL[835.24];W[hg]WL[423.922];B[jd]BL[816.678];W[jf]WL[413.352]
;B[kd]BL[808.47]
(;W[kc]WL[388.65]C[Anyway, this is just silly.

So after I die with this group, naturally, I lose the game.

I just trolled a bit at the end, and tried to get something. But nothing worked.

End of comments.]
;B[ld]BL[804.299];W[md]WL[385.651];B[me]BL[781.921];W[mc]WL[375.407];B[nd]BL[741.736]
;W[lb]WL[369.148];B[ob]BL[735.586];W[ma]WL[367.485];B[id]BL[726.019];W[lf]WL[356.928]
;B[ka]BL[720.687];W[jb]WL[324.443];B[ja]BL[706.309];W[ia]WL[321.666];B[ib]BL[701.67]
;W[ae]WL[318.649];B[dh]BL[693.029];W[fh]WL[316.643];B[eg]BL[689.649];W[ej]WL[314.992]
;B[ha]BL[681.067];W[ei]WL[313.093];B[la]BL[676.734];W[jj]WL[283.617];B[qi]BL[668.483]
;W[ri]WL[281.506];B[qh]BL[663.225];W[rh]WL[279.885];B[qg]BL[660.278];W[nk]WL[276.65]
;B[mm]BL[654.589];W[pk]WL[271.461];B[nj]BL[650.054];W[ln]WL[261.045];B[mn]BL[645.812]
;W[lp]WL[256.226];B[mp]BL[643.128];W[kn]WL[243.931];B[ll]BL[629.672];W[hs]WL[166.572]
;B[ep]BL[619.974];W[ls]WL[147.332];B[mq]BL[614.792];W[js]WL[143.4];B[po]BL[611.331]
;W[pn]WL[141.36];B[so]BL[608.36];W[np]WL[132.171];B[nr]BL[596.357];W[no]WL[124.519]
;B[lr]BL[584.554];W[or]WL[118.565];B[oq]BL[580.587];W[ns]WL[115.598];B[mr]BL[576.825]
;W[ms]WL[113.869];B[pr]BL[573.684];W[os]WL[111.128];B[ps]BL[571.43];W[ks]WL[109.82]
;B[qn]BL[549.059];W[rn]WL[106.795];B[qm]BL[529.755];W[rm]WL[101.135];B[pm]BL[511.783]
;W[oo]WL[92.048];B[om]BL[507.086];W[pp]WL[90.61];B[kr]BL[501.194];W[is]WL[88.239]
;B[po]BL[497.677];W[kb]WL[86.307];B[ia]BL[489.129];W[pp]WL[84.729];B[nn]BL[460.242]
;W[po]WL[81.266];B[rr]BL[458.839];W[ol]WL[47.743];B[nm]BL[454.099];W[mj]WL[46.363]
;B[lk]BL[414.912];OW[5]W[nh]WL[30];B[oh]BL[371.414];OW[3]W[of]WL[30];B[mh]BL[361.965]
;OW[3]W[nf]WL[30];B[mf]BL[358.191];OW[3]W[mg]WL[30];B[oj]BL[333.529];OW[3]W[og]
WL[30];B[nh]BL[328.695];OW[3]W[lh]WL[30];B[ok]BL[320.449];OW[2]W[oa]WL[30];B[pb]
BL[314.171])
(;W[ld];B[kc];W[lb];B[jb];W[ic]C[This, I guess.];B[dh];W[ae];B[ej];W[fh];B[eg];W[ei]
;B[dk];W[fj];B[di];W[ek];B[fi]C[Ko, maybe.]))
(;W[md];B[mc];W[kd]C[Maybe something like this?]))
(;W[ng]C[If I threaten a moyo over here, then maybe he will have less potential on the left.]))
(;W[da]C[Just take at this point.]))
(;W[cd]C[Just here leaves less aji, and I don't get sealed in as much.

In the game, I thought it was not necessary to protect cut, but the squeeze was great for him.]))
(;B[cm];W[bm];B[dl]C[Seems fine for black, and white is crawling.]))
(;W[dm]C[Maybe the outside is bigger.]))
(;W[bi]C[I considered this for awhile.];B[bj]
(;W[ci])
(;W[ch]C[I dunno.])))
(;W[el]C[This might be better to make my stones coordinate on the left.]))
(;W[hc]C[I considered this for awhile.];B[cc];W[ec];B[eb];W[fd];B[gd];W[gc];B[fb]
;W[ge];B[dm]C[I just dont' like that there's a gap in my shape around here.]))

[Kirby]

Problem Areas

$$ Position at move 26
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$ Position at move 26
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think the marked move protects the weakness alright, but the left side seems more urgent, given the investment I've put into it. His move hurt a lot.

I like this way better:

$$ Position at move 26
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$ Position at move 26
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

He might invade on the right, but I think white's left side is working together nicely.

Position 2

$$ Position at move 34
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . W . O . . O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$ Position at move 34
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . W . O . . O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think the marked move is *not* good. Black already has a stone in place on the left, and I just make a weak-ish group. Black's group is not that weak. So I lose out.

Position 3

$$ Position at move 58
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . a O W . . X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$ Position at move 58
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . a O W . . X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think this is not good, given the aji at 'a'. It's true that I didn't get captured during the game, but he was able to use the aji to squeeze me well. I think he got more than I did by not connecting.

I should just play simply:

$$ Position at move 58
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W O . . . X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$ Position at move 58
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W O . . . X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Position 4

$$ Position at move 74
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$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O O X X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$ Position at move 74
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$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O O X X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The marked move, above, felt bad before I played it. But I played it anyway, feeling black was ahead. I think black is ahead, but I think I should take a more relaxed approach, instead of making a weak group.

Gotta remember: Weak group == no points on other parts of the board.

Instead, I like this:

$$ Position at move 74
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O O X X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$ Position at move 74
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O O X X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I can threaten a big shape, and see if I can make something happen - instead of fighting in black's area.

Position 5

$$ Position at move 130
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$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . W . X . . . . . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | O X O O O O X . . . . . . . . O O X O |
$$ | . O X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . X . . X . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O O X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . X . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O O X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$ Position at move 130
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . W . X . . . . . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | O X O O O O X . . . . . . . . O O X O |
$$ | . O X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . X . . X . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O O X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . X . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O O X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The marked move is another example of the same thing. I just dive in. Maybe I can live, yes.

Instead, maybe this:

$$ Position at move 130
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . , . . W . . X . X . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | O X O O O O X . . . . . . . . O O X O |
$$ | . O X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . X . . X . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O O X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . X . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O O X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$ Position at move 130
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . , . . W . . X . X . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | O X O O O O X . . . . . . . . O O X O |
$$ | . O X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . X . . X . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O O X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . X . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O O X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

But weak group on top == no points on right!!! Why can't I get this through my head?



Position 6

$$ Position at move 160
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O X . O W O . X X . . . . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X . . . O . X . . X X . |
$$ | O X O O O O X . O O . . . . . O O X O |
$$ | . O X O . X X O O X . O . X . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X O . . X . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . O . O , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . X X O . X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O O X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . X . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O O X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$ Position at move 160
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O X . O W O . X X . . . . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X . . . O . X . . X X . |
$$ | O X O O O O X . O O . . . . . O O X O |
$$ | . O X O . X X O O X . O . X . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X O . . X . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . O . O , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . X X O . X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O O X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . X . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O O X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The marked move gives away maybe my last potential chance of something happening. I don't know 100% that I can kill him, but I've gotta try this way:

$$ Position at move 160
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O X . O . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X X W . . . X . X . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X . . . O . X . . X X . |
$$ | O X O O O O X . O O . . . . . O O X O |
$$ | . O X O . X X O O X . O . X . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X O . . X . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . O . O , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . X X O . X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O O X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . X . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O O X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$ Position at move 160
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O X . O . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X X W . . . X . X . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X . . . O . X . . X X . |
$$ | O X O O O O X . O O . . . . . O O X O |
$$ | . O X O . X X O O X . O . X . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X O . . X . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . O . O , . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . X X O . X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O O X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . X . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O O X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Learning Points
1. Biggest thing is to recognize, again, that weak group means I won't get points on other points of the board. I created weak groups multiple times.
2. When I fall behind, instead of making weak group, try to make a big shape - try to catch up. Wait for him to give a weakness, and then pounce.
3. Play biggest place in the opening.

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I hope this isn't the start of another losing streak.

[Shaddy]

You're playing many thoughtless moves like 20 and 26 and 30, which appear to threaten followups but actually do nothing.

[Kirby]

You're playing many thoughtless moves like 20 and 26 and 30, which appear to threaten followups but actually do nothing.

I can't really disagree, especially with moves 20 and 30. Move 26 was more of a defensive move than a threat - I considered knight's move slide into the corner, but thought he would just attach.

But I like your comment. It kind of suggests that the answer to my problems might be simpler than I thought: I need to be more thoughtful. I need to think!

Obvious, I guess, but apparently lacking in my game.

[Bill Spight]

What was your plan with ?

[Kirby]

What was your plan with ?

I thought, since he had the kosumi in the bottom right corner, there was potential for a good shape on the bottom for black.
By pressing black down, I thought this would limit his potential.

Wrong idea?

[Uberdude]

What was your plan with ?

I thought, since he had the kosumi in the bottom right corner, there was potential for a good shape on the bottom for black.
By pressing black down, I thought this would limit his potential.

Wrong idea?

Typical "Kirby the destroyer" reasoning. How about trying to be "Kirby the creator" and build your own moyo with the other press at d7. Black's bottom side is nothing special, in fact black's bottom side doesn't even exist yet.

[Kirby]

What was your plan with ?

I thought, since he had the kosumi in the bottom right corner, there was potential for a good shape on the bottom for black.
By pressing black down, I thought this would limit his potential.

Wrong idea?

Typical "Kirby the destroyer" reasoning. How about trying to be "Kirby the creator" and build your own moyo with the other press at d7. Black's bottom side is nothing special, in fact black's bottom side doesn't even exist yet.

Very interesting. I think you are correct in your assessment about me having a "destroyer" type attitude. For example, I am afraid when my opponent makes a large framework. I am also reluctant to give them points. So I can very much see your point in observing that I am a "destroyer".

However, I suspect that becoming a "creator" is something that is difficult to change into overnight.

So while I see the problem, I am not sure how to "become a creator".

Still, it's something interesting to think about.

[Uberdude]

Yes, changing one's mindset and style will not happen overnight. But if you think when playing a move, "Is this destroying my opponent's potential" and the answer is yes see if you can find another reasonable looking move that is a creating your own potential type of move. Try playing that one instead even if you don't like it so much and see how the game develops. Then show us .

[Magicwand]

Problem Areas
Instead, I like this:

$$ Position at move 74
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$$ | . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
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$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$ Position at move 74
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$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
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Kirby: Long time no talk...
One point i would like to teach you.
IMO, below is better than your move above.

$$ Position at move 74
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$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
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[go]$$ Position at move 74
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$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . |
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$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . O X . X X . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

[Bill Spight]

What was your plan with ?

I thought, since he had the kosumi in the bottom right corner, there was potential for a good shape on the bottom for black.
By pressing black down, I thought this would limit his potential.

Wrong idea?

1) It strikes me as heavy, making it difficult to sacrifice the two stones in the bottom left.

2) It does not do much to make territory for White.

3) There are easier ways to limit Black's potential on the bottom side.

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[go]$$Wcm14
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

For instance, threatens to play at 15. If now , makes a base and threatens to slide to "a".

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$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . a . . 1 . . b . X . . . |
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[go]$$Wcm14
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Alternatively, the wedge at leaves "a" and "b" miai. White also gets the last big play of the opening, assuming that the top and left sides are miai.

[Bill Spight]

Problem Areas
Instead, I like this:

$$ Position at move 74
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$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O O X X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$ Position at move 74
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$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O O X X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Kirby: Long time no talk...
One point i would like to teach you.
IMO, below is better than your move above.

$$ Position at move 74
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$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O O X X . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . O X . X X . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$ Position at move 74
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$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . . . X . . . . . |
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$$ | . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

We usually agree about these things, but not here. The keima is more solid, but I think that the high ogeima is appropriate, especially considering that White is behind.

[Charles Matthews]

The keima is more solid, but I think that the high ogeima is appropriate, especially considering that White is behind.

The high play doesn't work well with S16 next, while the keima does. The high play works better, I think, with R16 next, which is a fighting resource. If White is actually going to have to invade at 3-3 to keep the territorial balance, then neither is so great: probably the high play has some merit.

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$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . . . X a . 1 5 . |
$$ | . X X O O O X X . , . . . . . X 2 3 . |
$$ | . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . 6 4 . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . 8 O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . W . 9 b . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . c . . . |
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$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
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[go]$$W Hypothetical
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$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . O . . . . . . X a . 1 5 . |
$$ | . X X O O O X X . , . . . . . X 2 3 . |
$$ | . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . 6 4 . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . 8 O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . W . 9 b . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . c . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X X . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . X . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , . . . . X , X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X X O . . . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

For example up to here, as a local sequence. It seems that Black would play a rather than block, considering what is to the left. The exchange of Black b and White c seems OK for White. Black would probably be looking for more severity than this.

So I think Bill's assessment stands up.

[Magicwand]

We usually agree about these things, but not here. The keima is more solid, but I think that the high ogeima is appropriate, especially considering that White is behind.

after careful reconsideration, i cannot agree with you because of group on the bottom. Once black attacks the white group on the bottom... spiderweb influence will not hold. For that reason i like solid moves.

remember that i said it is better than previous, it doesnt mean that it is the optimal.
My feeling is that white has to play bottom to secure it's two eyes.