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I thought I got to play for both sides.
helped the strength of the left side group, so I felt more comfortable taking territory, and giving him a wall.OK, let's assume that you are right. Let's also assume that you opponent, who plays at your level, also has the same understanding.Kirby wrote:I thought I got to play for both sides.
That was my reasoning, anyway.
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exchange, I would probably have tried 
, with an eye to sacrificing 
-- which you did, anyway. makes living with smaller, and maybe harder. The gain from is smaller than it looks if lives.If he did this, probably I'd take the corner, then: The way this conversation is going, though, presumably the bottom is bigger than the corner?Bill Spight wrote:
OK, let's assume that you are right. Let's also assume that you opponent, who plays at your level, also has the same understanding.
Then won't he play this way, rather than give up a lot of territory for a not very efficient wall? Why would he let you get away with your plan?
I suppose that you do not think thatKirby wrote:If he did this, probably I'd take the corner, then:Bill Spight wrote:
OK, let's assume that you are right. Let's also assume that you opponent, who plays at your level, also has the same understanding.
Then won't he play this way, rather than give up a lot of territory for a not very efficient wall? Why would he let you get away with your plan?
is sente. In that case it is a large yose, right?Earlier in the game I would have played at C-03. At this point I see three possible plays in the corner for Black, at the "a" points. C-03 gives White a bit of a dilemma, but at this point they all seem premature. That was my point. That said, G-03 looks pretty good, eh?The way this conversation is going, though, presumably the bottom is bigger than the corner?
If that's the case, I suppose the suggestion is to play the bottom immediately?
Is that what you mean?
My refutation is first, that C does not force A nor does it make it bigger or more urgent, since Black can sacrifice ; and second, that B does not force C, either.What I meant to say was that Black B-04 does not force White C-03. In fact, White C-03 does not protect any territory. And White C-03 does not force G-03, much less make it larger. In fact, it hinders Black's development towards the corner. So the argument that Black should exchange B-04 with C-03 before playing G-03 does not hold up.Kirby wrote:Took me awhile to parse the bit about A's, B's, and C's.
I interpret that as saying that my slide doesn't force 3-3; you gave an alternative.
And that alternative doesn't force me to play 3-3.
And starting with 3-3 is the best choice, but not until later. Right?
I like 3-3 alright, though in the game, I feared white would block at c4 and thereby weaken c6.
Well, the fact that Black G-03 gains less after White plays C-03 should be obvious.Kirby wrote:I guess the point is, when I play one, the value of the other is reduced.
Wanting to take it all is a well known go sin: Greed.Kirby wrote:I usually want to take it all during the game, so maybe it's hard to notice this during the game.
Good point.
Maintaining balance and grabbing your chances is not trying to take it all.Magicwand wrote:Kirby:
My advise you to play game that is 끈적끈적.
maintaining balance and grabing chance is the key to play such style.
Wanting to take it all appears to have affected your reading. White replied at C-03, which may be what you expected, but did you look at a White reply at G-03? After White's reply you played G-03, as you had originally planned, but did you consider J-03?Magicwand wrote:I think you will need to read less to improve.
Your reading was way too complicated (and wrong i think).
I agree. I've thought about what Magicwand said, and I kind of agree, and kind of don't agree.Bill Spight wrote: It is not that your reading was complicated, but considering those plays is not complicated, either.
That suggests that you need to broaden your reading.Kirby wrote:I agree. I've thought about what Magicwand said, and I kind of agree, and kind of don't agree.Bill Spight wrote: It is not that your reading was complicated, but considering those plays is not complicated, either.
Overall, I think that a big problem is that my reading is not very flexible. I have some areas where I have fixed idea. In this case, after the slide, I had fixed idea that he would respond at 3-3, and then I would have sente to move on to take territory on the bottom (which may not have even been that big).
Good.I think I need to be more flexible, and consider more possibilities - get rid of fixed ideas.
There is more to thinking than reading.If, aside from rank, motivation comes from playing a well thought out game, then necessarily, I have to take the effort to read more
Flexibility usually means being more complicated.and perhaps it'd help to be more flexible... So if being a stronger player means reading less, or being less complicated, then I don't want to be a strong go player. But I think that things can be solved if I am simply more flexible,
I still recommend the exercise of playing over pro games, picking your 5 best candidate moves and then checking to see if the pro's choice is among them. If not, that can be a clue about where your thinking is too narrow.How to do that? I'm not quite sure. Maybe conscious effort when I am playing and when I am doing go problems.
Okay, okay, I will do itBill Spight wrote: I still recommend the exercise of playing over pro games, picking your 5 best candidate moves and then checking to see if the pro's choice is among them. If not, that can be a clue about where your thinking is too narrow.
Something to think about.Kirby wrote:* During the early middle game, I had a strong tendency to want to play on the bottom - the area where both black and white could play. As early as move 22, I wanted to play in that area. I guess it was small, though, because nobody played there until well over 100 moves (move 126, for example).
Don't be too hard on yourself. I think you did rather well. You might have done less well in the middle game, but you were not completely lost.* It seems that, while I have a rough familiarity of where pros will play for the first 30 moves or so, I am completely lost in the middle game (this game didn't have much of an endgame, since it ended in resignation).
Kirby wrote: * It seems that, while I have a rough familiarity of where pros will play for the first 30 moves or so, I am completely lost in the middle game (this game didn't have much of an endgame, since it ended in resignation).
made me smile. The reason is that this kind of nose play usually fails: it is only tesuji under somewhat unusual circumstances. My onboard shape predictor thought that White's play round here might be at 
instead.