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Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:39 pm
by Jordus
Black Internal Chat:
I think playing to threaten a cut with
is the perfect move now thanks to our
stone
$$Bcm Prisoners: None
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Just a quick analysis... more to come..
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:19 am
by fwiffo
Black suggestion:
$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
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We really can't skip this follow-up. The hane would mostly undo our last move. We could try jumping up instead (
at
a ), but I always regret that when I try it.
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:24 pm
by Jordus
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:02 pm
by fwiffo
Bump... Do we still have a game here?
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:20 pm
by Jedo
Apologies, middle of finals week over here. Suggestion:
$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
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I think Fwiffo's move is correct, but this is just to give us another option. With the wedge:
$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
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Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:59 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
$$Bcm Prisoners: None
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Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:00 pm
by Redundant
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:31 pm
by tj86430
Redundant wrote: Connect
I can't think of anything else. To honor the format I will suggest something else.... (throwing dice) .... M13.
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:01 am
by topazg
$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
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Joaz, stop killing the move numbers
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:30 am
by fwiffo
Black suggestion.
$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
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Like I was saying, we need to follow up the shoulder hit with this unless we have any other freebie moves anywhere.
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 11:27 am
by Joaz Banbeck
$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
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The right move, for all the reasons that have been mentioned. And it looks so much better when we have our previously played peep as a potential ladder breaker.
$$Bc
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Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 11:37 am
by Redundant
Discuss. I see these options.
$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
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Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 11:51 am
by Joaz Banbeck
For observers:
It is probably just a demented fantasy, but I'm looking at things like this
$$Bc
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Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 11:56 am
by tj86430
Redundant wrote: Discuss. I see these options.
$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
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For some reason I am tempted by:
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This is not my suggestion (yet), but to add to the discussion.
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 12:08 pm
by Chew Terr
$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
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My suggestion is 'a'. If we play any of the other options besides 'c', I feel like black will play there like a shot. I feel like black can't stop to play 'c' yet, so let's solidify what we can while threatening shrinking the bottom left from multiple sides. They're undercut on the bottom right, undercut at 'b', and have TJ's favorite push. Basically, black's not going to get a ton down there unless we tenuki enough to let them. This works well with what we've got, however, and black can't afford to extend too far on the top because of our overpowering thickness. For example, if we take 'a' and black takes 'd', I will probably immediately recommend the M17 invasion, as it does have an effect on the corner, and we can threaten the new weak group on top. If black extends less far, we can probably shoulder-hit their stone and end up with more.
I would actually recommend M17 immediately, except that I prefer solidifying our left side groups before moves like D12 become more intimidating than they are.
is the perfect move now thanks to our 
stone
at a), but I always regret that when I try it.