[go]$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . O X . O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X 5 . . . . O X X . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
The right move, for all the reasons that have been mentioned. And it looks so much better when we have our previously played peep as a potential ladder breaker.
$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , 2 3 . . . O X X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O O 1 4 5 . . O X . O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . O X X . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . c . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . d . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . e . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O O a . . . . O X . O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . O X X . . O . X . . | $$ | . b . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
My suggestion is 'a'. If we play any of the other options besides 'c', I feel like black will play there like a shot. I feel like black can't stop to play 'c' yet, so let's solidify what we can while threatening shrinking the bottom left from multiple sides. They're undercut on the bottom right, undercut at 'b', and have TJ's favorite push. Basically, black's not going to get a ton down there unless we tenuki enough to let them. This works well with what we've got, however, and black can't afford to extend too far on the top because of our overpowering thickness. For example, if we take 'a' and black takes 'd', I will probably immediately recommend the M17 invasion, as it does have an effect on the corner, and we can threaten the new weak group on top. If black extends less far, we can probably shoulder-hit their stone and end up with more.
I would actually recommend M17 immediately, except that I prefer solidifying our left side groups before moves like D12 become more intimidating than they are.
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:02 am
by tj86430
I just realized I haven't suggested anything. To keep this going I suggest M16.
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:22 pm
by Jedo
bump?!
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:37 pm
by Redundant
Chew's move is probably best ... but I vote c18.
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:14 am
by topazg
$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O O 6 . . . . O X . O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X 5 . . . . O X X . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O O 6 . . . . O X . O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X 5 . . . . O X X . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
The three stones around D13 have a lot of aji, so allowing Black to make something in the lower left is probably worth the large scale eradication of these stones.
