Life In 19x19

Liisa wrote: Being a pro should not be a honorary title. Being a pro just means that you are currently voting a Labor Party. Nothing very honorary there.

Hey? Something got lost in the trasnlation there I think. What is the link between pro and a left wing party? Or do you mean a closed shop trade union (a guild), which is kind of how the Asian systems work?

But I do agree in your charactarisation of the Asian pro system. Why do we need to copy their titles if we change the system to gainb that title and undermine the logic behind it?

any news?

(somebody posted a comment like this in sensei's page) It is now almost 3 months

Hi, I just checked the website and don't see anything except the list of names that has been up there for some months. I'd like to know if there is anything going on behind the scenes actually, or if the project just evaporated? ^^'

So I assume everyone still knows nothing? This doesn't bode well for the organization. I hope it does actually happen, but the structure might turn out better if they actually told us what's going on (if anything) and allowed people to contribute suggestions on how to organize it.

Hicham wrote:What is the link between pro and a left wing party?

This may not be your question, but one of the japanese titles is sponsored by the communist party of japan (via its newspaper).

I'd be less worried about losing feedback. Not everything depends on the wisdom of forum posters.

But I would be worried about being taken seriously. This project seems to depend both on the actual activities of the players and the appearance that the league is thriving. Months and months of silence does nothing to get people to take the aspiring European professionals seriously.

If sponsors have not been found by this stage, then it seems doubtful that the league will come into being.

tapir wrote:

Hicham wrote:What is the link between pro and a left wing party?

This may not be your question, but one of the japanese titles is sponsored by the communist party of japan (via its newspaper).

Yikes! Which title?

nagano wrote:

tapir wrote:
This may not be your question, but one of the japanese titles is sponsored by the communist party of japan (via its newspaper).

Yikes! Which title?

what is there against a communist party ?

nagano wrote:

tapir wrote:This may not be your question, but one of the japanese titles is sponsored by the communist party of japan (via its newspaper).

Yikes! Which title?

The Shinjin O. http://senseis.xmp.net/?ShinjinO

Sponsored by Akahata, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimbun_Akahata

willemien wrote:

nagano wrote:

tapir wrote:
This may not be your question, but one of the japanese titles is sponsored by the communist party of japan (via its newspaper).

Yikes! Which title?

what is there against a communist party ?

As much as I would like, I obviously can't give a direct answer. My political views can best be described as classic liberal, so you can judge for yourself, why I would dislike such a thing.

Javaness wrote:If sponsors have not been found by this stage, then it seems doubtful that the league will come into being.

And the lack of reports here and elsewhere probably means that not much happened in this direction as well. I mean if you are trying to establish such a league you can get sponsorship 1) because you generate a large enough public interesting for advertising etc. 2) as development effort (what the ING foundation did) - if you don't build that public you have no chance to establish something like this at all. The necessary sponsorship sum was 100k $ upwards per year, wasn't it? (Seems unlikely to get it as development effort and unlikely to raise that much by sponsorship either. Compare to the money companies spent for Go in the big three with hundreds of thousands or millions interested in the tournaments.)

nagano wrote:

tapir wrote:This may not be your question, but one of the japanese titles is sponsored by the communist party of japan (via its newspaper).

Yikes! Which title?

Wow, it is sad to see a post containing so much fear of the "generalised unknown" that is communism, all packed together in one short word. Admins, how does this not violate the TOS?

gaius wrote:Wow, it is sad to see a post containing so much fear of the "generalised unknown" that is communism, all packed together in one short word. Admins, how does this not violate the TOS?

Perhaps nagano can explain further, but to me, "Yikes" indicates great surprise, and isn't necessarily implying anything negative.

Nagano, was there a further inflection in the use of the word?

topazg wrote:Perhaps nagano can explain further, but to me, "Yikes" indicates great surprise, and isn't necessarily implying anything negative.

Nagano, was there a further inflection in the use of the word?

nagano wrote:

willemien wrote:what is there against a communist party ?

As much as I would like, I obviously can't give a direct answer. My political views can best be described as classic liberal, so you can judge for yourself, why I would dislike such a thing.

^ this.

I completely understand fear of communism. Yet, it has been abused too often (particularly, I feel, in Western/American media) to carelessly discard many pragmatic ideas just because they resemble socialism. I feel that it is not really fair to allow someone to propagate that fear here when the terms of service, perhaps justly, do not allow for a sensible reply.

Aside from that though, I think that posting "yikes, [insert political ideology here]" without explanation is little more than trolling, which is quite annoying in my view.