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Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 7:19 pm
by Magicwand
wow..Shaddy is so kyuish. i can not tell who is 4 kyu from this game.
i am thinking he is more like 2 kyu than 1 dan.
in this game black is still ahead and 40 point komi? impossible win for white.

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 3:06 pm
by Shaddy
Oh crap, sorry. I missed your response, thinking it would have gone on page 4.
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[go]$$Wcm42 Move: 42 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O 1 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is a no-brainer.

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:40 am
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm43 Move: 43 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Here goes nothing! My last look at this position had White jumping into the corner. However, it's quite possible that White will jump out, or lean on my group. I haven't really decided how I want to handle that either, beyond my initial response.

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[go]$$Bcm43 Jump Out
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm43 Lean
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:23 am
by Shaddy
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[go]$$Wcm44 Move: 44 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, there's aji left on the side. His group is weak, I can attack later, but now it's time to deal with this big corner thing.

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:29 am
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm45 Move: 45 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Uh oh ... :D The fight begins. I'm no longer worried about territory with this group. If I have to, I'll run across the board to connect with my left side.

He's likely to next attack my lower left group.

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:39 pm
by Shaddy
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[go]$$Wcm46 Move: 46 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . 1 . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, now things are complicated.
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[go]$$Wcm46 Move: 46 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . c . O . . O O X , a . . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . b . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'd like to be able to get a in sente. This move would get rid of some troublesome aji in the corner, but it's not really sente- black can just jump out again, and he's almost connected to the weak group on the bottom, and then I have to connect underneath (or what was the point of playing a?). So I think I should play c or b to harass the bottom group, and get a later. The problem seems to me to be a matter of timing, and I'll need to watch carefully for the right time to get a. As to which of c or b to get.. seems to me, b is better. c allows him to settle down pretty well on the bottom, while b chases him out into the center so I can launch a splitting attack. The only concern is that he may abandon the group as being too small.

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:48 pm
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm47 Move: 47 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O 1 X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


And now the last of my 3 weak groups is to be attacked ... I'll use this forcing move then jump out. My expectation:

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[go]$$Bcm47 Move: 47 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 3 . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O 2 O 1 X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Of course, White gets the advantage of gaining a splitting attack against my two groups ... but I'll just have to sit tight and hold on to what I can. How did I get myself into this? :D

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:31 am
by Shaddy
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[go]$$Wcm48 Move: 48 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:21 pm
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm49 Move: 49 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 1 . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Nice move by my opponent! He's looking to perform a splitting attack on my groups. It took me a while to decide how best to handle this, as I don't know if I can really save both groups of stones.

I wonder if there's any way he can keep my bottom group from escaping ...

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[go]$$Bcm1 Dreaming ... definitely unlikely to happen
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 . . 1 . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . 7 6 3 . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O 5 4 2 . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O 9 O X X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1 Part 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 1 . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . 8 2 3 . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X 0 O 7 4 5 . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O 9 O X X 6 O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm11 Part 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . 3 . . . X . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O 2 1 W W X . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X W X . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X X O O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm49 Try #3 - White keeps me running with both groups.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . 6 . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 1 . X 7 X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . 5 3 2 . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


There are too many ways this could go very badly for me. Guess I can fight it out, and see how badly I do. I suppose I could abandon my stones in the lower left ... I have a 40 point reverse komi after all ... but where's the fun in that? I'm still treating this game as an even one, and I guess I'll make my mistakes and see what happens.

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 8:18 pm
by Shaddy
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[go]$$Wcm50 Move: 50 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . 1 . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


looks like his group can die.

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[go]$$Bcm49 Move: 49 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 8 . 1 . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . 3 6 7 . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O 4 5 2 a O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X 9 O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . d b c . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 8:25 pm
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm51 Move: 51 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . 1 . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . O . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Wait ... is he actually going to let me out so easily? Is my random line of play going to actually be played? For reference from my last post:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Still Dreaming
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 . . 1 . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . 7 6 3 . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O 5 4 2 . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O 9 O X X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


He'll deviate rather quickly, I think. This can't be too bad for me. I'm still alive! :lol:

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:03 pm
by Shaddy
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[go]$$Wcm52 Move: 52 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . 1 X . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . O . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Aw crap, horrible misread. I went through this variation and thought "oh, this is ok, I can just capture that stone I've clamped." I think I can still turn it to my advantage though.. that knight's move connection is just begging to be cut.

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 5:01 am
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm53 Move: 53 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O X . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . 1 O . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Now my groups will be separated. This is what I expected to happen, really. My groups are both still weak (and I still have the weak group on the upper right, too), but jumping to J6 was done to give my lower right group more space to run.

Here's how I think it's going to continue:

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[go]$$Bcm53 One group gets out of danger
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . 5 . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 3 4 X . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O X 2 . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . 1 O . O . . O O X , 6 . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 1:08 pm
by Shaddy
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[go]$$Wcm54 Move: 54 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . 1 . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O X . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . X O . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Just getting a forcing move in before cutting that knight's move

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 5:16 pm
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm55 Move: 55 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X 1 X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O X . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . X O . O . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X . O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Not much choice ...