[go]$$Wcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 7 5 . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . 2 O 6 . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X 4 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Feel free to reject any of this trigger. It's the most reasonable followup I'm familiar with here, but I'd be happy to learn a new one. =) I know this one gives me sente, but I still have to decide what I want to do with it, so I'll propose this first.
$$Wcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . d . . . . . . . . . . . 3 7 5 . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . 2 O 6 . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X 4 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . c . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . b . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . d . . . . . . . . . . . 3 7 5 . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . 2 O 6 . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X 4 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . c . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . b . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This mess will give me sente. Here are some of the followups I'm considering. 'a' gives me more thickness and saves/kills some stones, but saving those stones may be a bit small if it doesn't destabilize white sufficiently. I'll have to look into that. 'b' takes some points and threatens to cut off white's corner stones. However, it is awfully low and gives white some chance of building central influence by leaning on it. 'c' splits and threatens to invade, but I doubt I can do much against the ponnuki below, so this is just a reduction (at the cost of inducing white to fix his invasion points. The other big alternatives I'm thinking about are invading the top or building the bottom, but there are a lot of specific places I'll have to think about for those.
Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:34 pm
by yithril
I'll buy it Enjoy your sente.
If I were him I would've tried to destroy the top. This is rather a weak choice. Let's see what he does next.
Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:20 am
by Chew Terr
$$Wcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . 8 . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 2 4 . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . 6 3 . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . 1 . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
He's right, I like my sente. Let's try to find a way to keep it. This is a variant of the 'b' I had considered before. However, let's try to be Shaddy. I wanted to find a variant that's severe enough that he has to react, while hopefully being able to end in sente by threatening cutting off the corner stones. Let's take Magicwand's vaunted 'flow', and try to keep a game that favors us. If white leans on this group for central power, I will jump out in the top right. I should not be feeling so good about second-line moves so early!
Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:36 pm
by yithril
$$Wcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
His move was painful. I'm going to try a risky strategy. If he cuts now it may end up being a capturing race with his group, which I think I might win, but I could lose. I don't want to just connect all my stones on dame points.
Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:07 am
by gaius
Hmmm. I'd like to see how white intends to survive this:
$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . X O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 8 . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O 5 X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 3 2 6 . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O 4 . | $$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O 7 . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Enjoy your sente.