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Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:03 pm
by MarkSteere
$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 3 . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
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$$ | . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 3 . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
In order to hang onto sente, you have to take hostages such as A9 and L1, i.e. groups you can kill whenever you want. Otherwise sente will change hands every few turns.
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:34 pm
by topazg
$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . . . . O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
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$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . . . . O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:40 pm
by MarkSteere
$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:11 pm
by tj86430
What happened at move 41? How does one get from this:
$$Bcm31 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | . O . . . . O . . 4 . |
$$ | . O . . X . . 4 . O . |
$$ | 2 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . O O 0 . . . O O . 6 |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . 7 . . O . |
$$ | 2 . O . O . . X . . 8 |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . O O . |
$$ | X . . . 5 . . 0 . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X . . O |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm31 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | . O . . . . O . . 4 . |
$$ | . O . . X . . 4 . O . |
$$ | 2 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . O O 0 . . . O O . 6 |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . 7 . . O . |
$$ | 2 . O . O . . X . . 8 |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . O O . |
$$ | X . . . 5 . . 0 . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X . . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
to this:
$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | . O . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . O . . X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . O O O . . . O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | . O . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . O . . X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . O O O . . . O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:58 pm
by MarkSteere
Thank you for your question, tj. I went back and edited move 41 for clarity.
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:12 am
by topazg
$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:25 am
by MarkSteere
$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:40 am
by topazg
$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X 8 X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X 8 X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:51 am
by hyperpape
How do you play Hex Oust, Mark? That is, how do you handle viewing the boards when you're playing online?
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:57 am
by MarkSteere
$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . 9 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . 9 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . 9 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . 9 |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . 9 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . 9 |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
It's still possible for me to lose sente and for Topazg to break out from the upper right, consuming my diagonal of singletons. I'm trying not to feel confident because confidence is just bad karma in Oust.
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:15 am
by MarkSteere
hyperpape wrote:How do you play Hex Oust, Mark? That is, how do you handle viewing the boards when you're playing online?
Sorry, I don't understand your question.
Hex Oust is implemented at the following sites:
1. Arty Sandler's
iggc.
2. Christian Freeling's
MindSports.
3. Wesley Tanaka's
gwc.
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:08 am
by topazg
$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . 9 1 . |
$$ | X 0 . . X . . . 1 . 9 |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . 9 1 . |
$$ | X 0 . . X . . . 1 . 9 |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
Nono, feel confident, this is definitely a snafu for me...
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:38 am
by hyperpape
That's the answer I needed. I didn't realize the game was implemented at those places.
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:14 am
by MarkSteere
$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | O . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . O |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | O . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | O . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X 1 |
$$ | X . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . . |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | O . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X 1 |
$$ | X . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . . |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | . 1 X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X 1 |
$$ | X . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . . |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | . 1 X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X 1 |
$$ | X . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . . |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 1 . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | . 1 X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X 1 |
$$ | X . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . . |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 1 . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | . 1 X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X 1 |
$$ | X . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . . |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:28 am
by topazg
$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O 2 . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | . 1 X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X 1 |
$$ | X 2 . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . . |
$$ -----------------------
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[go]$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O 2 . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | . 1 X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X 1 |
$$ | X 2 . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . . |
$$ -----------------------[/go]