[go]$$Wcm1 Move #56 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . O O O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . O . . O . X . | $$ | . . . . . O . . B . X . O . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
heh, pretty embarassing, i played a move (convinced it is the best i can think of) and immediately after oponents answer i feel like i am getting into troubles... i analyzed mostly W L4 and a bit missed other possibilities. nevermind. now this is the best i can think of, so we will see how will i come out of the situation. i expect white to play hane H3, otherwise i will play it myself
Re: 38. Laman vs Magicwand
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:20 am
by topazg
To Laman:
Why not simply bL5?
Re: 38. Laman vs Magicwand
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:25 am
by Bill Spight
topazg wrote:To Laman:
Why not simply bL5?
Jowa says, Don't run.
I think that the jump attachment is a good move for sabaki.
Edit: Unhidden.
Re: 38. Laman vs Magicwand
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:39 am
by topazg
Bill Spight wrote:
Jowa says, Don't run.
I think that the jump attachment is a good move for sabaki.
Sure, but I think Black should be after more. The one point jump isn't really running, it's aiming at H5, J3, or J5 later, or maybe even G3/H3. That's an attackable White group down there isn't it? Sabaki just seems premature to me...
Re: 38. Laman vs Magicwand
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:46 am
by Laman
topazg:
topazg wrote:To Laman:
Why not simply bL5?
i cant connect to my stones, so i prefer to live inside (if i can) instead of running. and i considered this:
$$Wcm1 Diagram 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . O O O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . 5 O 2 . . O . . O . X . | $$ | . . . . . O . 1 X 4 X . O . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 Diagram 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . O O O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . 5 O 2 . . O . . O . X . | $$ | . . . . . O . 1 X 4 X . O . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
ok, it seems this way i also wont be able to connect
This is interesting. I would never have played the one point jump to run / connect as other people seem to think the purpose is. I would play it for the following:
$$Wcm1 Diagram 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . O O O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . 1 . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . b . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . 2 O . . . O . . O . X . | $$ | . . . . . O a a b . X . O . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 Diagram 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . O O O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . 1 . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . b . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . 2 O . . . O . . O . X . | $$ | . . . . . O a a b . X . O . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Though "a" and "b" retain interest too. It feels like White's last move is a weakness fixer for his lower right group, not an attacking move. It feels like magicwand loves trying to make people live on the inside, I'd play merely to thwart his desires.
Re: 38. Laman vs Magicwand
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:12 am
by Magicwand
$$Wcm1 Move #56 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . O O O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . O . . O . X . | $$ | . . . . . O . W X . X . O . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 Move #64 - Prisoners: B=0, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . O O O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . X O , . . O . . O . X . | $$ | . . . . . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
ladder works for me and later i can connect to left or right side (preferably left). i am quite happy how it came out here, only white got some power, so he can enter my corner at the C3 sansan. but it would be gote, so i think he will play something other before. about plans for me, i might erase whites center potential by N14, or solidify and expand my right side to the center. anyway, next few moves will be probably under whites control, so i dont have to decide right now
Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:25 am
by Magicwand
$$Wcm1 Move #65 - Prisoners: B=0, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X . . . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . O O O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . W X O , . . O . . O . X . | $$ | . . . . . O . O X X X . O . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
