[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . O . O X X . . . . . O W . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . X X . O . . O X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . O X . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Kirby made many mistakes but still ahead. i dont have any target to attack. i am having hard time trying to balance the points. but i also think i still have a chance to comeback.
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:39 pm
by Kirby
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . O . O X X . . . . . O O B . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . X X . O . . O X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . O X . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . O . O X X . W . . . O O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . X X . O . . O X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . O X 1 a b . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X 3 2 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . 4 5 c d . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Now black answers a with b and c with d. White can capture 2 but to no avail.
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:03 pm
by Dusk Eagle
prokofiev:
White could atari the four black stones to get more liberties, and escape. However, my comment wasn't meant to be too deep: I had just been keeping track of the ladder for the whole bottom sequence and found the final result in the bottom in relation to the ladder rather interesting.
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:56 pm
by Kirby
I'll try to be available when possible, but I might be away here and there.
I'm getting on a flight to Germany tomorrow, and then we'll be going to a few other countries in Europe.
I'm sure that they have Internet access there, though
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:58 pm
by Kirby
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . O . O X X . O . . . O O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . X X . O . . O X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . O X . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . B . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
There is no hidden tesuji here B can force some moves, but in the end he must come back to play honte Bc18. If in-game you see any gain in terms of aji from forcing these exchanges than you can do them now, but if not than there is no point in doing so
Thank you. I was thinking about the relationship between e17 and h17. With a black stone at e17, black can reduce the white group to a single eye with h17 (or am I wrong with that)? It means that white has to answer something like Bf12 with a move inside his group. Though I didn't check on board may be totally wrong. Anyway thanks again for the answer.
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:09 am
by prokofiev
Dusk Eagle wrote:prokofiev:
White could atari the four black stones to get more liberties, and escape. However, my comment wasn't meant to be too deep: I had just been keeping track of the ladder for the whole bottom sequence and found the final result in the bottom in relation to the ladder rather interesting.
Thanks, that was silly! It felt too easy but I missed the issue anyways.
In any case that wasn't meant as a correction to what you were saying (had it been correct), just trying the obvious to capture locally instead of the ladder. The ladder was fun to read, though!
Re: 47. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 5
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:02 am
by Kirby
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . O . O X X . O . . . O O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . X X . O . . O X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . O X . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . B . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
B can force some moves, but in the end he must come back to play honte Bc18. If in-game you see any gain in terms of aji from forcing these exchanges than you can do them now, but if not than there is no point in doing so