This idea that "the right side is mine" is quite premature in this case. White is very thin there and if black builds a wall facing that thinness in the process of attacking the center group, black could easily invade there and on the bottom side as well to greatly diminish white's overall prospects.quietimes wrote:$$Bcm20
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$$ ---------------------------------------So, I'm looking at this and saying, wth do I do? If I continue to run, I can hope to get influence in the center. The right side is mine, so black sending a runner between us is diminishing returns, therefore what is his plan there? The longer the run to the center, the better the chance of that group surviving. I guess my plan at this point is to run to the middle then cut behind the upper right star point with a 3-3 joseki or 3-4 and reduce. After that, look to strengthen my position on the lower right vs invade C8-D8.
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#218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu
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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu
quietimes: your most recent move is mislabeled as move 21. It should be 20, with my move here being 21. Not that it's a big deal, just FYI.
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I took this out of the spoilers because it obviously doesn't give anything of the game away.EdLee wrote:ikkyu,That's nice. Congrats.ikkyu wrote:On the bright side, my life issues have gotten better, so now I can sleep at night.
To make a long story somewhat shorter, I've been with my wife for almost 12 years now. A lot can change in that time, especially since we got together when she was 19 and I was 20. We've gone from one side of this country to the other and back. We've gone through job and career changes (When we started, I was a martial arts instructor and she was studying to work in a PR firm. Now I work a general office job and she runs an in-home daycare). We've bought a house and had a kid.
In that time, a lot of conflicts and bad feelings can develop, especially if, like us, you don't make it a point to deal with them when they occur. Instead, we just sort of avoided them or kept them inside until it blew up in our faces. So we're now working through our issues, working on forgiving each other for past transgressions and hurts, and trying to make things better going forward. And while there have been a lot of sleepless nights on both our parts, as well as a lot of stress, we both think this is worth it.
I know this really isn't the place for this, but one advantage the anonimity of the internet offers is the ability to talk about these kind of things openly without too much fear of real-life reprecussions. I live in a small town where telling one person is often tantamount to telling everyone.
So sorry for the diatribe and the spelling errors (I'm a terrible speller).
I promise I'll make my next move after the insanity of the 4th of July dies down, either tomorrow or Saturday.
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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu
I have no shame is saying I don't know what I'm doing on the coding side. Please feel free to correct Ikkyu.
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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu
Don't worry about it. You're doing better than I did the first time I played one of these.