Life In 19x19

Posted: **Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:33 pm**

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Posted: **Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:19 am**

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Posted: **Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:16 am**

Good response. Keeps me separated. I could be wrong, but I think ikkyu's strongest response was probably this:

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because it keeps my stones on the right separated and takes a liberty off :w25:

. Either way, the two stones on the right are pretty conclusively dead. Notice that white can't even threaten to connect back up:

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But

at a would be a mistake:

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Famously alive shape (that probably has a name).

Here are some interesting local moves. I don't really know what they do. Does a live? (If it does now, it probably wouldn't have done if black had taken a liberty off as above.)

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Importantly, I can't just go around taking corners for the whole game. I will get into a lot of trouble if I don't break into the centre at some point.

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:24 pm**

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:21 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:01 am**

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Posted: **Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:53 pm**

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As before, I really didn't have a good feel on what I should do. I thought about the following:

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A & B act as both corner enclosures as well as putting pressure on white's lone stone. However, it looks like there are attachments and complicated things like that that I'm not certain I want to tangle with.
C looks interesting because it strengthens my stone while maybe working to keep his stone separate from the group in the upper right (maybe). I'm honestly mostly interested in this move because I've never played anything like it before and I'm curious how it would go.
D I like this, up to the point when I realized the cut could get really messy for me.

As such, having no real idea what to do, I played what I consider to be a very defensive move that I'm not at all sure about.

Posted: **Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:58 pm**

Posted: **Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:49 pm**

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Posted: **Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:57 am**

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Posted: **Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:28 am**

So last night I went back to the local Go club for the first time since June 2012. I had forgotten how much fun I could have, as I like the social aspect of the game (which is one of the reasons I dislike playing online). I played two games and won both:

I played black in a 9-stone game where I played fairly well. I was able to do some good things, except that they were based more on instinct rather than reading/planning. I haven’t actively done problems in almost a year, so starting again should help this.
I played white in a 4-stone game where I played poorly. It should have been 5 stones, but my partner opted for 4. I made two large blunders, both based on miscounting liberties, and allowed two large black groups to live that shouldn’t have.

The nice thing about both games was that even though I wasn’t thrilled with my playing, I could see very specific areas that I needed to work on. This will obviously make improvement easier on my part.

And it’s interesting playing in a public place, as I was sitting next to two people having a conversation about combining the teachings of Anton LaVey with The Secret. If you know both, this is an intriguing proposition.

Posted: **Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:33 am**

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Posted: **Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:12 am**

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Posted: **Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:17 am**

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Posted: **Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:51 am**

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So I thought about the following

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It seems like A would lead to the top group becoming stronger than I would like. C makes it easier for my group to connect up with "friends" but doesn't put as much pressure on white's two groups. I imagine white will play C16. If that happens, I may play K17 so white can't attach.

As before, not sure if I'm approaching this the "right" way.

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