Joaz Banbeck wrote:Do we have an accurate prisoner count now?
If you guys are gonna make me post this a third time ...
I mean I even posted the correct code! How much more can a man do?
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:34 am
by Chew Terr
Oh, JTS is fine. Sad that Gresil's idled, but life is important. Enjoy the mess you've signed up for. =)
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:40 am
by jts
Mnemonic wrote:
Joaz Banbeck wrote:Do we have an accurate prisoner count now?
If you guys are gonna make me post this a third time ...
I mean I even posted the correct code! How much more can a man do?
Ah, ok. So B has 11 captures and 60 prisoners (if my move is accepted), and W has 1 capture and 64 prisoners. Shall we accept shapenaji's suggestion, and only track prisoners from here on out?
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:37 am
by Violence
I don't really care either way, worst case scenario, we count Chinese and backtrack all of the changes the upper level players have made.
Also, I've never seen a sledge go later than second pick. I've never had the luxury of multiple sledges. You sack.
But multiple Fangrens? That's like every other draft for me.
I should really make an off topic thread for this.
Also, approved.
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:57 am
by jts
bump
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:03 pm
by Chew Terr
$$Wcm134 Move 136 W65 B60 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . W . O X . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X O . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O O O | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . B X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm134 Move 136 W65 B60 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . W . O X . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X O . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O O O | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . B X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Time to live, I suppose. So, it looks like we can threaten this group a little, and then we need to make some points on bottom with our thickness. Or perhaps we can start a fight in the middle, or something. Regardless, living is first.
Sorry, I'd missed Violence's approval
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:37 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
I approve.
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:28 pm
by shapenaji
I approve
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:24 pm
by jts
$$Wcm134 Move 137 W65 B60 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . O . O X . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X O . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X . X . O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X B O O . X O O O | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm134 Move 137 W65 B60 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . O . O X . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X O . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X . X . O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X B O O . X O O O | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I think this is by far the best move. If W doesn't play O16, we can connect and then (I think) he has to live in gote. If W responds, we get L18.
I haven't read out exactly how we're going to live. Our potential eyespace is small, and W has four different moves to reduce it. I'm pretty sure, though, that we can protect our eyespace as it stands with moves that threaten to kill W.
$$Wcm134 Move 137 W65 B60 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . a . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X a a . O . O X . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X a a a X O . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X . X . O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X B O O . X O O O | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm134 Move 137 W65 B60 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . a . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X a a . O . O X . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X a a a X O . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X . X . O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X B O O . X O O O | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:41 pm
by cyclops
Not for players until upper side is settled:
$$Wc $$ ------------------------------+ $$ . . . O . . . . . 4 8 9 . . . | $$ O . O X . . 6 O 5 O X 7 0 . . | $$ . O X X . . . X O 3 O X X . . | $$ O X O X . X X . X 1 O O X X . | $$ . X O O X O X X O O 2 X O O O | $$ . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X | $$ . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X | $$ . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X |
[go]$$Wc $$ ------------------------------+ $$ . . . O . . . . . 4 8 9 . . . | $$ O . O X . . 6 O 5 O X 7 0 . . | $$ . O X X . . . X O 3 O X X . . | $$ O X O X . X X . X 1 O O X X . | $$ . X O O X O X X O O 2 X O O O | $$ . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X | $$ . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X | $$ . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X |[/go]
$$Wc $$ ------------------------------+ $$ . . 5 O 4 . 3 . 1 . 2 O . . . | $$ O . O X 6 . X O O O . O X . . | $$ . O X X . . . X O O O X X . . | $$ O X O X . X X . X O O O X X . | $$ . X O O X O X X O O X X O O O | $$ . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X | $$ . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X | $$ . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X | $$ . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . | $$ X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X |
[go]$$Wc $$ ------------------------------+ $$ . . 5 O 4 . 3 . 1 . 2 O . . . | $$ O . O X 6 . X O O O . O X . . | $$ . O X X . . . X O O O X X . . | $$ O X O X . X X . X O O O X X . | $$ . X O O X O X X O O X X O O O | $$ . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X | $$ . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X | $$ . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X | $$ . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . | $$ X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X |[/go]
W seems far behind
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:03 pm
by Aphelion
Cyclops:
White will 100% start the ko. Black's life is threatened as well, and there is no ko threat big enough.
$$Wcm134 Move 1 W65 B60 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . O . O X . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X O . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X 3 X 1 O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X B O O 2 X O O O | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm134 Move 1 W65 B60 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . O . O X . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X O . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X 3 X 1 O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X B O O 2 X O O O | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
So black will connect, and White will live in sente: Edit: Just realized I didn't know how Black can live... need to do more reading.
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:44 pm
by Violence
Whose turn is it now?
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:09 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
I believe that it is Topazg's move.
EDIT: Ooops, I forgot that Daniel the Smith had replaced him. Sorry, Daniel.
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:13 pm
by Chew Terr
Daniel's, you mean~
Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:00 pm
by daniel_the_smith
I was going to think some more, but what the heck. I'll approve.
