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Filthy casual training
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Re: Filthy casual training
You had 14th line territory across the whole board...?
What happened?!
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What happened?!
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Re: Filthy casual training
I dunno, I hope this was just an overrated player with a bad hair day. Or maybe a very distracted player.
I still don't feel it should be possible. Feels like I'm sandbagging, really.
EDIT: I looked at their game record. Seems like this player is having a bad WEEK. Far too many rated games for their current rating to be wrong, though.
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Re: Filthy casual training
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| Pass | Prob# | Title | Count |
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| 1 | 1 | 501 Opening Problems | 501 |
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| 1 | p1 | Essential Life and Death 2 | much |
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| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Beginners Volume 3 | 421 |
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| 2 | 1 | 1001 Life and Death Problems | 1001 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | 257 | Graded Go Problems for Dan Players Volume 1 | 300 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | 490 | Cho's Elementary | 900 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+Progress is progressing progressively.
I will try to reach the end of Cho's E this week, then try out the new entrants to the schedule.
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Re: Filthy casual training
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| Pass | Prob# | Title | Count |
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| 1 | 1 | 501 Opening Problems | 501 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | p1 | Essential Life and Death 2 | much |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Beginners Volume 3 | 421 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | 1001 Life and Death Problems | 1001 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Dan Players Volume 1 | 300 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | 490 | Cho's Elementary | 900 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
GGPfDPV1 got a little hard near the end. 5-10 mins on some of them. I probably wouldn't actually recommend it for someone my level, but that simply means I should raise my level to where it becomes more digestible.
At this rate Cho's E will not be finished before the end of next week.
Oh well. I'm in this for the long haul anyway.
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Re: Filthy casual training
tentano wrote:GGPfDPV1 got a little hard near the end. 5-10 mins on some of them. I probably wouldn't actually recommend it for someone my level, but that simply means I should raise my level to where it becomes more digestible.
At this rate Cho's E will not be finished before the end of next week.
Oh well. I'm in this for the long haul anyway.
The GGPfDP books tend to be compilations of multiple problem collections available in Japanese. As a result, the first half of the books is the first set, targeted at a lower level (let's say approaching 1d for the low dan books) and the second set is at a higher level (3d for the same).
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Re: Filthy casual training
That makes sense with how it felt, but it makes the book a little bewildering in concept.
I can definitely see how the much harder second half might just intimidate and discourage someone who has few other tsumego books (or none).
I can definitely see how the much harder second half might just intimidate and discourage someone who has few other tsumego books (or none).
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Re: Filthy casual training
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| Pass | Prob# | Title | Count |
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| 1 | 1 | 501 Opening Problems | 501 |
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| 1 | p42 | Essential Life and Death 2 | much |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Beginners Volume 3 | 421 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | 1001 Life and Death Problems | 1001 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Dan Players Volume 1 | 300 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | 504 | Cho's Elementary | 900 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+Here's a problem that I really got stuck on:
White should have played at a), black to live.
is best. It limits the damage to a ko instead of certain life, and even if it lives, it lives smaller.-
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Re: Filthy casual training
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| Pass | Prob# | Title | Count |
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| 1 | 1 | 501 Opening Problems | 501 |
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| 1 | p84 | Essential Life and Death 2 | much |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Beginners Volume 3 | 421 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | 1001 Life and Death Problems | 1001 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Dan Players Volume 1 | 300 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | 504 | Cho's Elementary | 900 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+Spent some time reading http://www.toscanago.org/drupal/?q=node/165 (links to a pdf which is what I'm talking about)
I disagree with a lot of their recommendations, but it was interesting to see someone else's idea of the road to strong dan. I was especially surprised to see Cho's Advanced recommended for 4k. But also surprised to see it recommended for up to 4d. That's a pretty wide target audience!
Of course they're not very legible to someone who doesn't know Italian, but such is life.
Pondering their recommendations, I remembered something: I actually have Cho Chikun for the DS! I wonder how many of these problems are the same as the ones in tasuki's pdfs. So I spent some time playing it, and will probably continue later.
The interface is dated, the problems often feel like they have too few variations accounted for, and it's completely incomprehensible what any of the text means unless you know how to read Japanese, but somehow it still seems okay to me. I also don't really notice if they're the same problems or not. One of the save slots is from 2009 ... how time has flown.
It keeps track of how well (or not) you do, so I can compare and with confidence say that I'm better than I was six years ago. GO ME!
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Re: Filthy casual training
So I looked at my stats on http://kgs.gosquares.net/ to better understand why rank upgrade isn't happening.
It turns out I've won nearly two thirds of all ranked games this month.
It turns out I've lost nearly two thirds of all ranked games last month.
Worse, I played a lot more games in December and my all-time win ratio is just a tad short of 50%. That seems very much consistent with a stagnant rank. Can't blame the system there.
I guess I'll just keep going. If I can win 2/3 of all games during February too, it'll come unstuck eventually. Recent encounters have put to rest my feeling of sandbaggery, somewhat. I might also be hitting ratings islands with always randomly choosing opponents, so that some will seem far too strong, and some far too weak.
Besides, if I can still let an unconditionally alive corner die (twice last week
), I should maybe feel a bit more patient and humble about my progress.
It's still obvious that I'm getting better. And, above all, it's very obvious that I still have fun playing.
It turns out I've won nearly two thirds of all ranked games this month.
It turns out I've lost nearly two thirds of all ranked games last month.
Worse, I played a lot more games in December and my all-time win ratio is just a tad short of 50%. That seems very much consistent with a stagnant rank. Can't blame the system there.
I guess I'll just keep going. If I can win 2/3 of all games during February too, it'll come unstuck eventually. Recent encounters have put to rest my feeling of sandbaggery, somewhat. I might also be hitting ratings islands with always randomly choosing opponents, so that some will seem far too strong, and some far too weak.
Besides, if I can still let an unconditionally alive corner die (twice last week
), I should maybe feel a bit more patient and humble about my progress.It's still obvious that I'm getting better. And, above all, it's very obvious that I still have fun playing.
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Re: Filthy casual training
Not really keeping with the schedule, at all.
I realize that I miss the sense of completing things, and it's not really about if I do any tsumego. I did several hundred this week, just none of it as part of the schedule. None of it part of an organized effort.
I need to return to the Plan and stop dithering around. I'm losing focus and while that is entertaining, I need to remember that I want to be a dan-level player.
The past two months have given me a large change in how I play, and in how well I can see ahead. It would be a waste to keep faffing about aimlessly when I have such an obvious improvement. Just today, I managed to breach 50/50 win/loss for the KGS account I've used since october, despite the disaster that december was.
I won a game today where I took five handicap stones (+14.5). I also won one where I gave two, taking well over half the stones my opponent played in the process (I really wonder why this opponent didn't resign, +162.5). It's obvious I'm playing a lot better than I was, and I shouldn't throw away the progress I've made.
Even more than that, I shouldn't throw away the rate at which I've made progress. I'm sure that if I stop progressing much now, I'll still see one or two ranks added over time. That is unambitious, though. It feels good to know I've improved, but if I slack off now I will lose that good feeling completely.
If I have to stagnate, let it be around 5-6d. Or higher. But NOT lower. I've got to keep pushing beyond my comfort zone, and I seriously need to allow myself to master, one by one, sets of tsumego which arm me with weapons of mass destruction.
Semeai which used to be dubious are now clear to me. I know who would win them, so I can confidently tenuki or play them out. Various times, I've used ladders which don't work in order to make something else work. A lot of corner groups die because I know how to kill them now. It's a big deal. I can capitalize on the mistakes of others where before I had to shy away.
I haven't even gone through a quarter of my study material. There's clearly a vast amount of room for improvement, if only I can stay focused and structured. I clearly have the capacity to do this, all it takes is doing it. I certainly seem to find the time to waste on go. I need to invest it more carefully, and stick with the plan.
Why do I want to be stronger? Bragging rights, naturally. I will spend hundreds of hours of work just to have people stare at me in quiet amazement and concern when I mention I'm actually really good at a very obscure board game.
I realize that I miss the sense of completing things, and it's not really about if I do any tsumego. I did several hundred this week, just none of it as part of the schedule. None of it part of an organized effort.
I need to return to the Plan and stop dithering around. I'm losing focus and while that is entertaining, I need to remember that I want to be a dan-level player.
The past two months have given me a large change in how I play, and in how well I can see ahead. It would be a waste to keep faffing about aimlessly when I have such an obvious improvement. Just today, I managed to breach 50/50 win/loss for the KGS account I've used since october, despite the disaster that december was.
I won a game today where I took five handicap stones (+14.5). I also won one where I gave two, taking well over half the stones my opponent played in the process (I really wonder why this opponent didn't resign, +162.5). It's obvious I'm playing a lot better than I was, and I shouldn't throw away the progress I've made.
Even more than that, I shouldn't throw away the rate at which I've made progress. I'm sure that if I stop progressing much now, I'll still see one or two ranks added over time. That is unambitious, though. It feels good to know I've improved, but if I slack off now I will lose that good feeling completely.
If I have to stagnate, let it be around 5-6d. Or higher. But NOT lower. I've got to keep pushing beyond my comfort zone, and I seriously need to allow myself to master, one by one, sets of tsumego which arm me with weapons of mass destruction.
Semeai which used to be dubious are now clear to me. I know who would win them, so I can confidently tenuki or play them out. Various times, I've used ladders which don't work in order to make something else work. A lot of corner groups die because I know how to kill them now. It's a big deal. I can capitalize on the mistakes of others where before I had to shy away.
I haven't even gone through a quarter of my study material. There's clearly a vast amount of room for improvement, if only I can stay focused and structured. I clearly have the capacity to do this, all it takes is doing it. I certainly seem to find the time to waste on go. I need to invest it more carefully, and stick with the plan.
Why do I want to be stronger? Bragging rights, naturally. I will spend hundreds of hours of work just to have people stare at me in quiet amazement and concern when I mention I'm actually really good at a very obscure board game.
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Re: Filthy casual training
Your plan sounds a whole lot more organised than mine does!
Keep at the plan, get those people staring at you in amazement and concern!
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Keep at the plan, get those people staring at you in amazement and concern!
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Re: Filthy casual training
Code: Select all
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| Pass | Prob# | Title | Count |
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| 1 | 1 | 501 Opening Problems | 501 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | p84 | Essential Life and Death 2 | much |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Beginners Volume 3 | 421 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | 1001 Life and Death Problems | 1001 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Dan Players Volume 1 | 300 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | 602 | Cho's Elementary | 900 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+There, all that pep talk had some effect. At this rate my first pass through Cho's E will be finished well before this week is over.
My KGS ratings graph has started to rise, at long last, though it's not going as fast as I might want it to. I really did lose a lot of games in December, but they were fun to play. Lots of experiments, which have taught me a lot.
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Re: Filthy casual training
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| Pass | Prob# | Title | Count |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | 1 | 501 Opening Problems | 501 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | p84 | Essential Life and Death 2 | much |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Beginners Volume 3 | 421 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | 1001 Life and Death Problems | 1001 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Dan Players Volume 1 | 300 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | 700 | Cho's Elementary | 900 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+I've won all my games this month.
Well, I haven't played many games yet this month, but it feels good while it lasts.
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Re: Filthy casual training
Code: Select all
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| Pass | Prob# | Title | Count |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | 1 | 501 Opening Problems | 501 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | p84 | Essential Life and Death 2 | much |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Beginners Volume 3 | 421 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | 1001 Life and Death Problems | 1001 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Dan Players Volume 1 | 300 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | 811 | Cho's Elementary | 900 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+Lots of bulky five in the 700s. Feels a little weird after seeing so many harder problems, but okay...
I also lost one game today. So much for going a month without losing.
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Re: Filthy casual training
Code: Select all
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| Pass | Prob# | Title | Count |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | 1 | 501 Opening Problems | 501 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 1 | p84 | Essential Life and Death 2 | much |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Beginners Volume 3 | 421 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | 1001 Life and Death Problems | 1001 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Graded Go Problems for Dan Players Volume 1 | 300 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+
| 2 | 1 | Cho's Elementary | 900 |
+-------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+--------+Well then. Today is productive in the extreme.
Not only has the first pass of Cho's E been completed, I managed a whopping ten games (7W/3L).
This is a good day, and it isn't even over yet. I want more days like this.